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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Richard given an official cease-and-desist order regarding
 counter-factual libelous statements
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:49:03 -0500
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On 10/12/2024 5:08 PM, joes wrote:
> Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:44:06 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 10/12/2024 2:29 PM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Fri, 11 Oct 2024 17:34:13 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/24 6:09 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 4:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 5:44 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 4:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 5:09 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 3:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 1:31 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 12:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 11:35 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 8:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 8:41 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 4:47 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 01:55:37 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/2024 6:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/24 2:46 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/2024 6:46 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/24 7:01 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/2024 1:08 AM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/2024 6:49 AM, Andy Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The x86 machine code of DDD and HHH provides the single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct way to interpret DDD emulated by HHH.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, and that machine code needs to INCLUDE the machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code of HHH,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The source code has always proved that HHH does correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulate itself emulating DDD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it shows that HHH is first NOT a proper decider
>>>>>>>>>>>> The source-code conclusively proves that HHH does correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>> emulate itself emulating DDD. No matter how you deny this your
>>>>>>>>>>>> denial of these exact details <is> libelous.
>>>>>>>>>>>> *This is to be taken as an official cease-and-desist order*
>>>>>>>>>>> GO ahead an TRY. The counter-suit would ruin you.
>>>>>>>>>>> And, you would need to persuade some lawyer to take your case
>>>>>>>>>>> to even start, and I suspect that would be difficult
>>>>>>>>>>> considering your case.
>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect that in the first deposition you would just create
>>>>>>>>>>> obvious contradiction making you guilty of perjury.
>>>>>>>>>>> Your source code proves that HHH doesn't "Correctly Simulate"
>>>>>>>>>>> per the standard needed to determine halting, as partial
>>>>>>>>>>> simulation are no
>>>>>>>>>> Within software engineering (C and x86 code, not Turing
>>>>>>>>>> machines)
>>>>>>>>>> HHH does correctly emulate itself emulating DDD according to the
>>>>>>>>>> semantics of the x86 language.
>>>>>>>>>> No matter how you try to rebut this verified fact you would meet
>>>>>>>>>> the negligence requirement of defamation suits.
>>>>>>>>> Which means for you to claim defamation, you need to prove that
>>>>>>>>> my statements are actually false.
>>>>>>>>> Since I can show that you statement are incorrect, that can't be
>>>>>>>>> shown.
>>>>>>>>> Your conclusion can NOT come from your premises except by relying
>>>>>>>>> on equivocation, and thus your statement is not correct, and
>>>>>>>>> calling it wrong is not a lie, so can not be defamitory.
>>>>>>>> I already have several expert witnesses that have attested to the
>>>>>>>> fact that DDD emulated by the same HHH that it calls cannot
>>>>>>>> possibly return.
>>>>>>> And what do you do when I present the output from your own program
>>>>>>> that shows that DDD returns.
>>>>>>> Then present the definition of Halting as being about the machine
>>>>>>> itself, and that the definition of the Halting Problem is about the
>>>>>>> behavior of the machine defined by the input.
>>>>>> There are a pair of C functions having x86 code that specifies that
>>>>>> DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly return.
>>>>> No, it shows that HHH can not correctly emulate DDD and return an
>>>>> answer.
>>>> That you can't even pay attention to the fact that we are only talking
>>>> about the behavior of DDD emulated by HHH and not talking about
>>>> whether or not HHH returns a value would seem to be a good
>>>> incompetence defense to defamation.
>>> Whether HHH returns a value seems to be important for determining
>>> whether it is, in fact, a decider.
>> I have not even gotten to that point yet.
> If it's not, all the rest doesn't matter for the halting problem.
> 
>> My point HERE AND NOW is that DDD emulated by every HHH that can
>> possibly exist cannot possibly reach its own return instruction NO
>> MATTER WHAT HHH DOES.
> Yes, it depends on HHH. HHH cannot simulate DDD to its termination.
> 

That is the same as saying that people are limited
in their ability to calculate the diameter of a square.

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