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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Richard given an official cease-and-desist order regarding counter-factual libelous statements Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:49:03 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 91 Message-ID: <veeucv$bf9q$2@dont-email.me> References: <ve39pb$24k00$1@dont-email.me> <ve56ko$2i956$1@dont-email.me> <ve5nr2$2khlq$1@dont-email.me> <212f549294ebc77a918569aea93bea2a4a20286a@i2pn2.org> <ve6j1u$2og2c$1@dont-email.me> <f9d1bf5073fbffaa8d19bc76ca53020d263e7e16@i2pn2.org> <vea0iq$3cg0k$1@dont-email.me> <veas8b$3k751$1@dont-email.me> <veb6d6$3lbkf$4@dont-email.me> <abdfd1ca7abecda8618d1f029c3ea9823fa3b077@i2pn2.org> <vebgka$3n9aq$1@dont-email.me> <9ba1b363605f6eafab3c7084de8052b5732c2ecb@i2pn2.org> <vebncp$3nqde$2@dont-email.me> <35d61c22e9b7c379f8b8c24a7ea03edb6cb5dff8@i2pn2.org> <vec45r$3pqr6$2@dont-email.me> <ae05d9ecf74719e986062279b104234dba57116d@i2pn2.org> <vec685$3qavn$2@dont-email.me> <f76b8956cc65a3ee09b414a54779e14c061c7cab@i2pn2.org> <vec7m4$3qme3$1@dont-email.me> <866b3eb92d549c57a3ccfdb705b323dbae3cb8e8@i2pn2.org> <vec955$3qme3$2@dont-email.me> <8fff8d1080e14393c058d7d23d219ecd55b29d22@i2pn2.org> <veeji6$8jnq$4@dont-email.me> <7f197a83536ad27b934e677aad25d7f303c2813c@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 00:49:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4dff4ea9256eef2f131620d81ba94869"; logging-data="376122"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18IxrGs2HJwN6Q5+n9VfYVn" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/xoC1TpRlmXOmRt7s8mIOAp81v8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <7f197a83536ad27b934e677aad25d7f303c2813c@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 7058 On 10/12/2024 5:08 PM, joes wrote: > Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:44:06 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 10/12/2024 2:29 PM, joes wrote: >>> Am Fri, 11 Oct 2024 17:34:13 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 10/11/2024 5:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 10/11/24 6:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 10/11/2024 4:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/11/24 5:44 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 4:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 5:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 3:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 1:31 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 12:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 11:35 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 8:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 8:41 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 4:47 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 01:55:37 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/2024 6:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/24 2:46 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/2024 6:46 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/24 7:01 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/9/2024 1:08 AM, Jeff Barnett wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/2024 6:49 AM, Andy Walker wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The x86 machine code of DDD and HHH provides the single >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct way to interpret DDD emulated by HHH. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, and that machine code needs to INCLUDE the machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code of HHH, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The source code has always proved that HHH does correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulate itself emulating DDD. >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it shows that HHH is first NOT a proper decider >>>>>>>>>>>> The source-code conclusively proves that HHH does correctly >>>>>>>>>>>> emulate itself emulating DDD. No matter how you deny this your >>>>>>>>>>>> denial of these exact details <is> libelous. >>>>>>>>>>>> *This is to be taken as an official cease-and-desist order* >>>>>>>>>>> GO ahead an TRY. The counter-suit would ruin you. >>>>>>>>>>> And, you would need to persuade some lawyer to take your case >>>>>>>>>>> to even start, and I suspect that would be difficult >>>>>>>>>>> considering your case. >>>>>>>>>>> I suspect that in the first deposition you would just create >>>>>>>>>>> obvious contradiction making you guilty of perjury. >>>>>>>>>>> Your source code proves that HHH doesn't "Correctly Simulate" >>>>>>>>>>> per the standard needed to determine halting, as partial >>>>>>>>>>> simulation are no >>>>>>>>>> Within software engineering (C and x86 code, not Turing >>>>>>>>>> machines) >>>>>>>>>> HHH does correctly emulate itself emulating DDD according to the >>>>>>>>>> semantics of the x86 language. >>>>>>>>>> No matter how you try to rebut this verified fact you would meet >>>>>>>>>> the negligence requirement of defamation suits. >>>>>>>>> Which means for you to claim defamation, you need to prove that >>>>>>>>> my statements are actually false. >>>>>>>>> Since I can show that you statement are incorrect, that can't be >>>>>>>>> shown. >>>>>>>>> Your conclusion can NOT come from your premises except by relying >>>>>>>>> on equivocation, and thus your statement is not correct, and >>>>>>>>> calling it wrong is not a lie, so can not be defamitory. >>>>>>>> I already have several expert witnesses that have attested to the >>>>>>>> fact that DDD emulated by the same HHH that it calls cannot >>>>>>>> possibly return. >>>>>>> And what do you do when I present the output from your own program >>>>>>> that shows that DDD returns. >>>>>>> Then present the definition of Halting as being about the machine >>>>>>> itself, and that the definition of the Halting Problem is about the >>>>>>> behavior of the machine defined by the input. >>>>>> There are a pair of C functions having x86 code that specifies that >>>>>> DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly return. >>>>> No, it shows that HHH can not correctly emulate DDD and return an >>>>> answer. >>>> That you can't even pay attention to the fact that we are only talking >>>> about the behavior of DDD emulated by HHH and not talking about >>>> whether or not HHH returns a value would seem to be a good >>>> incompetence defense to defamation. >>> Whether HHH returns a value seems to be important for determining >>> whether it is, in fact, a decider. >> I have not even gotten to that point yet. > If it's not, all the rest doesn't matter for the halting problem. > >> My point HERE AND NOW is that DDD emulated by every HHH that can >> possibly exist cannot possibly reach its own return instruction NO >> MATTER WHAT HHH DOES. > Yes, it depends on HHH. HHH cannot simulate DDD to its termination. > That is the same as saying that people are limited in their ability to calculate the diameter of a square. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer