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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.repair Subject: Re: Oscillator Distortion Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:12:31 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vegv1v$ofj1$4@dont-email.me> References: <veguu6$ofj1$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 19:12:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="55a35ec646eedbfc987c24eb757f565a"; logging-data="802401"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX187OB6Z87+m9eW63q6RgnLfUA4Htlpqetw=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:a8XVisfyslzj5cnQBF4cdaf4i3g= Bytes: 2321 On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:10:30 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Last week I got an old (1968) pulse generator out of mothballs and > managed to get it fully functional again. However, before replacing the > case, I (true to form) dropped it on the bench and something on the PCB > must have shorted out against the metal tools it fell on, because it no > longer works properly. > I've found an issue with the principal oscillator. It's generating > distorted sine waves. It's a wien bridge type using BJTs as the gain > element and fine tungsten filaments as thermistors, so should produce > near perfect sine waves before they're chopped and shaped by subsequent > circuitry, but since the fall, it's not. > > Here's the oscillator output: > https://disk.yandex.com/i/eKAe95xMsiIvNA > > I found some weird periodic spikes on the power supply rails in the > oscillator stage. They are actually present on the rail, not just picked > up by the ground lead of the scope out of the ether, as I used a short > ground clip in this instance. I'm not sure if these could cause the > distortion or not. > [removed] > > I'm out of ideas. What could cause such distortion if the PS rail isn't > responsible? > > Your pal, > > CD. Sorry, the trace of the 'ripple' should have been this link: https://disk.yandex.com/i/P7AIraCaJybIMw