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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 14:29:27 -0500
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On 10/13/2024 1:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 10/13/24 9:28 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 10/13/2024 8:19 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 10/13/24 8:53 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence)
>>>>
>>>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to
>>>> the premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of
>>>> DDD and HHH. *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning*
>>>>
>>>> *The key premises are simply*
>>>> (a) the source code for DDD
>>>
>>> WHich isn't the source code for the PROGRAM DDD
>>>
>>> Try to run that program just by itself.
>>>
>>> It won't work, you need to include HHH (and everything it calls) so 
>>> that the "source code" for DDD needs to include the definition of all 
>>> of that.
>>>
>>> Sorry, you are just proving you don't understand what you are talking 
>>> about.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> void DDD()
>>>> {
>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>    return;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> (b) The design of HHH as a simulating termination analyzer.
>>>
>>> Which gets the wrong answer.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e
>>>> Click on the above link to directly talk to ChatGPT about HHH
>>>> and DDD without logging in.
>>>>
>>>> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must
>>>> be wrong when it reports that DDD does not terminate because
>>>> DDD does terminate it will explain your mistake to you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have taught Chat GPT this error as shown in this statement:
>>>
>>
>> I have only provided the source-code for DDD and the design of HHH.
>> You have not shown how any details of exactly what I told ChatGPT
>> are incorrect.
>>
>>
> 
> You mean like this statement:
> 
> The termination analyzer HHH is designed to detect non-terminating 
> behavior. When HHH simulates DDD and sees this pattern of infinite 
> recursive calls, it identifies that DDD will not terminate on its own.
> 

I didn't say that. ChatGPT said that.
ChatGPT used the first page starting with "You said:"
as its entire basis.

*Everything that I said is indented two inches*
Everything that ChatGPT said is prefaced by its logo symbol.

Everything else that I said besides the first page
was merely a challenge to ChatGPT's understanding.

-- 
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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer