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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.repair Subject: Re: Oscillator Distortion Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 20:56:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <vehc5f$r0sf$1@dont-email.me> References: <veguu6$ofj1$3@dont-email.me> <lgcogjheqi9sq64ro20j6b5e3q76b73d0i@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 22:56:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cbda52b8914aae15ec4f7ad1a1713aeb"; logging-data="885647"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ixp93EZmDxrokpGNcfAnH" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PGbDcYz2U55YpkMVvB6fw2dkWcw= sha1:6K0YHzZ70khhT4Nex3vT9PwfZRU= Bytes: 2809 john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:10:30 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom > <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: > >> Gentlemen, >> >> Last week I got an old (1968) pulse generator out of mothballs and managed >> to get it fully functional again. However, before replacing the case, I >> (true to form) dropped it on the bench and something on the PCB must have >> shorted out against the metal tools it fell on, because it no longer works >> properly. >> I've found an issue with the principal oscillator. It's generating >> distorted sine waves. It's a wien bridge type using BJTs as the gain >> element and fine tungsten filaments as thermistors, so should produce near >> perfect sine waves before they're chopped and shaped by subsequent >> circuitry, but since the fall, it's not. >> >> Here's the oscillator output: >> https://disk.yandex.com/i/eKAe95xMsiIvNA >> >> I found some weird periodic spikes on the power supply rails in the >> oscillator stage. They are actually present on the rail, not just picked >> up by the ground lead of the scope out of the ether, as I used a short >> ground clip in this instance. I'm not sure if these could cause the >> distortion or not. >> https://disk.yandex.com/i/eKAe95xMsiIvNA >> >> I'm out of ideas. What could cause such distortion if the PS rail isn't >> responsible? >> >> Your pal, >> >> CD. >> > > Maybe the light bulb broke. > > It would have to have failed short-circuit for the gain to be too high, and that’s not the usual failure mode. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics