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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Trying to refind a journal article Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 21:54:45 -0600 Organization: Amateur Plyd Lines: 45 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vei4m5$11qlt$6@dont-email.me> References: <veaa79$3hoqs$1@dont-email.me> <vebhtt$3nh6j$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="96644"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:nMhWXElwdC2WlH6ToRwC9juE8TM= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id E1239229788; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:49:01 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9395229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:48:59 -0400 (EDT) id 75D5C5E257; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 539095E1C4 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF0275F86E for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/EF0275F86E; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=invalid.invalid id 8718DDC01A9; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:54:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:54:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+HPMUYnGNwdQRxJW8b6twx+qNB3pZGnbQ= In-Reply-To: <vebhtt$3nh6j$1@dont-email.me> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4161 2nd attempt to reply RonO wrote: > On 10/10/2024 11:40 PM, Pro Plyd wrote: >> >> I use the browsers "Epic" and "Brave" which can >> be set to not save history. Was just starting >> to read an article, something about how "other" >> "theories" of evolution get around (theories as >> in, kook stuff, creationist, etc). Power blipped, >> pc restarted. Dang, no history. >> >> It was a journal of some kind, kinda pretty sure the >> journal title was "Cell-something". I think it was >> a 2024 article. >> >> Can't find it again. Does this ring a bell with >> anyone? Probably not enough to go on... > > Second attempt to post: > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2024/06/14/evolution-may-be-purposeful-and-its-freaking-scientists-out/ > > Something on "purposeful" evolution. His example of the adaptive immune > system essentially means that "purpose" is just the random development > of something that works to do something that can be selected for. The > random mutations are not directed, but they just produce something that > can be identified as working better to bind to an antigen. Nearly all > of the millions of attempts are failures. > > For evolution to work every change has to work within what already > exists. If a new function is created, that new function has to work > within what already exists. That is not purposeful, it is just reality. Thanks for checking. The Forbes article isn't it but is interesting. One other thing I recall is that the banner on that page had green on it. (if that doesn't pin it down nothing will!) Oh well. Came across it by chance, might rediscover it by chance.