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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!news1.firedrake.org!fnord.no!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Trying to refind a journal article Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 22:15:13 -0600 Organization: Amateur Plyd Lines: 42 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vei5sh$12d2p$2@dont-email.me> References: <veaa79$3hoqs$1@dont-email.me> <vebhtt$3nh6j$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="44538"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:d5d5HgZLohspkTibXwoaDe7MrTw= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 9DFFB229782; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:15:21 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77C9E229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:15:19 -0400 (EDT) id E812061113; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6B605FD1F for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:15:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mod-relay.zaccari.net B6B605FD1F (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF1125F86E for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/CF1125F86E; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=invalid.invalid id 82695DC01A9; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:15:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:15:14 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <vebhtt$3nh6j$1@dont-email.me> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/fgAjvISVI68bIDY+wWltS0pplI3xvUZQ= HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4158 RonO wrote: > On 10/10/2024 11:40 PM, Pro Plyd wrote: >> >> I use the browsers "Epic" and "Brave" which can >> be set to not save history. Was just starting >> to read an article, something about how "other" >> "theories" of evolution get around (theories as >> in, kook stuff, creationist, etc). Power blipped, >> pc restarted. Dang, no history. >> >> It was a journal of some kind, kinda pretty sure the >> journal title was "Cell-something". I think it was >> a 2024 article. >> >> Can't find it again. Does this ring a bell with >> anyone? Probably not enough to go on... > > Second attempt to post: > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2024/06/14/evolution-may-be-purposeful-and-its-freaking-scientists-out/ > > Something on "purposeful" evolution. His example of the adaptive immune > system essentially means that "purpose" is just the random development > of something that works to do something that can be selected for. The > random mutations are not directed, but they just produce something that > can be identified as working better to bind to an antigen. Nearly all > of the millions of attempts are failures. > > For evolution to work every change has to work within what already > exists. If a new function is created, that new function has to work > within what already exists. That is not purposeful, it is just reality. Thanks for checking. The Forbes article isn't it but is interesting. One other thing I recall is that the banner on that page had green on it. (if that doesn't pin it down nothing will!) Oh well. Came across it by chance, might rediscover it by chance.