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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:13:46 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vekj4q$1hrgd$1@dont-email.me> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> <36ecdefcca730806c7bd9ec03e326fac1a9c8464@i2pn2.org> <vejcoj$1879f$1@dont-email.me> <034767682966b9ac642993dd2fa0d181c21dfffc@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:13:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6ebbafc8de1d261770d7d4f83dd30cde"; logging-data="1633805"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+66NxVp1tlzcvyfeR2U8UM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:fcGZqhd9u5lJ7OIyK7K9CiYs9jc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <034767682966b9ac642993dd2fa0d181c21dfffc@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3116 On 10/14/2024 6:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/14/24 11:18 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/14/2024 7:06 AM, joes wrote: >>> Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:49:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie: >>> >>>>>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to the >>>>>> premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of DDD and HHH. >>>>>> *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning* >>>>> >>>>> No reasoning shown. >>>>> >>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e >>>> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be wrong >>>> when >>>> it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does terminate it >>>> will explain your mistake to you. >>> It is nonsensical for HHH not to report that DDD terminates. >>> >> The explanation is quite good. I will take what you said >> to mean that it was over your head or didn't bother to >> look at it. >> >> You never confirmed that you even know what infinite >> recursion is. >> > > No, he means your argument is just non-sense, and it is just a blantant > lie that you put forwards because you just don't understand what you are > talking about., In other words you coward away from trying to convince ChatGPT that is is incorrect. Since you say that it is a YES man it should be easy for you to get it to admit that it is wrong. https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be wrong when it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does terminate it will explain your mistake to you. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer