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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the
 Machines Could Take Over the World.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:39:20 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-10-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-10-14 à 19 h 01, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-10-14, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>>>> Borax Man wrote:
>>>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
>>>>> On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>>>>>> John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>> 'A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the Machines
>>>>>>> Could Take Over the World.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://archive.is/VuJ4L#selection-2403.0-2597.172>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'The newly minted Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton has a message about the
>>>>>>> artificial-intelligence systems he helped create: get more serious about
>>>>>>> safety or they could endanger humanity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am 50-50 on the view that AI will pose a danger to humanity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> both sides have decent arguments and i cant make up my mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think AI will take over, as it is not really capable of
>>>>> out-of-band thinking.  AI cannot solve a problem which hasn't been
>>>>> defined.  For example, you can get AI to perhaps streamline a process or
>>>>> design, make it more efficient, but it won't come to the realisation
>>>>> that the thing you are trying to do, may not be necessary after all.  So
>>>>> AI would have to do something it is not capable of at the moment, coming
>>>>> to new realisations and acting on that information.
>>>>>
>>>>> The threat from AI I think is more how we act.  I see a danger where we
>>>>> trust AI, and treat it like it is a superintelligence, and we use it as
>>>>> a crutch to make desicions, which turn out to be poor, suboptimal
>>>>> decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> current models may not be able to, but there is an exponential
>>>> curve we are riding.
>>>
>>> What we have seen is better models because they have more data.  But
>>> there is a leap to be made to get them to think out of band.  This is a
>>> very different type of program, and now where I think the A.I. path is
>>> leading to at the moment.
>>>
>>> Machines can't think, and programs can't think.
>> 
>> And most of programmers involved with creating AI can't think clearly either
>> (or at least they're pushing the agenda of their masters). Garbage in,
>> garbage out. (Remember when Google had to pull part of their AI imaging
>> because it was so DEI that it was completely incapable of producing white
>> Nazis or Vikings.) That's how AI "works" when it's programmed by the Woke.
>
> The sad part is that Debian seems to be going in that direction too. 
> Lunduke just revealed it today. Regardless of their code of conduct, 
> paid internship offers for Debian are asking Whites and Asians not to 
> apply. Strangely, Ubuntu, of all distributions, seems to be one of the 
> least woke.

I don't know where Linux Mint stands here. But it shouldn't be too surprising 
that Ubuntu is less Woke. For one, they're a company that's trying to earn a 
profit and, two, they're not a U.S. based company. South Africa doesn't seem 
too keen on the Woke crap. At least they're independent of the U.S. and 
Europe in several areas. And they are part of BRICS. 

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien