Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Copilot for Linux!
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:25:49 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 77
Message-ID: <vel5dt$1k0kk$2@dont-email.me>
References: <95pbgj90516gin4s8hq9hr9rfu3me1bujo@4ax.com>
 <ve686d$2m7v4$5@dont-email.me> <6mgdgjdapl14bbnkjvvmffjssmetfuo1am@4ax.com>
 <ve6odt$2p80p$2@dont-email.me> <opqdgjpa0v7hr48i7s454ht03plj18f5fl@4ax.com>
 <vegk9d$mqnt$5@dont-email.me> <tjpngjpug49kjo5dkek0o6o67mc2b5ef15@4ax.com>
 <ln2ip9Fo4ibU3@mid.individual.net>
 <tq6ogj96u0kn0eenkp4otc1llgbjhfp41r@4ax.com>
 <ln38hsFr9s8U1@mid.individual.net> <OVdPO.213899$WXO8.156791@fx13.iad>
 <vek839$1cf26$2@dont-email.me> <OoiPO.55918$vtH3.34866@fx07.iad>
 <ln60brF9r4cU1@mid.individual.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:25:49 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2cb8817cbb1e0c889c9e299ce321b945";
	logging-data="1704596"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+VkTZu4zatIW8Q3+e0DJd8"
User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:XkWGESGWIAWTq0JPKDnZqdDp40M=

On 2024-10-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:09:18 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> Admittedly, I didn't put much weight in what they said either. They seem
>> to have an agenda. I notice that when it comes to coverage of
>> international news, one of the best sources is RT.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People's_Voice_(website)
>
> Oh, THAT People's Voice...
>
> https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/
>
> Quite a few of the articles did not seem to be fakes. I'm not sure about 
> the greatest hits links on the righthand side of the page.
>
> "Rumors Grow That Syrian President Assad Has Suffered Fatal Stroke"
>
> January 30, 2017
>
> They took the bait but apparently the root of the Satan thing is the 
> Exsulet.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEs4d3cCX9s
>
> It's long but the final verse starts at 10:22
>
> Flammas eius lucifer matutinus inventiat:
> Ille, inquam, lucifer, qui nescit occasum:
> Christus Filius tuuse, qui regressus ab inferis,
> humano generi serenus illuxit,
> et vivit et renat in saecula saeculorum.
>
> OMG! He's praying to Lucifer!  

These guys sound like they're at the level of Chic Publications. For those 
of us who don't speak Latin (me)...

"lucifer" in Latin means "bringing light" or the "morning star." "lux" = 
light, "ferre" = to bring. In this passage it's being applied to Jesus as 
the "Morning Star" not to satan.

English translation as published by the Catholic Church...

May this flame be found still burning by the Morning Star:
the one Morning Star who never sets, 
Christ your Son, who, coming back from death's domain,
has shed his peaceful light on humanity,
and lives and reigns for ever and ever.

Note, "lucifer" is not capitalized as if it were a name in the Latin.

"This flame" is the paschal candle, which the priest is preparing and will 
light as this song ends (the part quoted is just end the of the song).

The name Lucifer was given to satan indirectly. Lucifer was originally 
applied to the planet Venus, the "morning star" when it appeared in the 
morning skies. It was applied to the fallen King of Babylon by Isaiah...

   How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art 
   thou cut down to the ground which didst weaken the nations!
   
Only later did Christians apply this passage to satan.

   Tertullian and Gregory the Great understood this passage of Isaiah in 
   reference to the fall of Satan; in consequence of which the name Lucifer 
   has since been applied to Satan.

So, I guess, some idiot saw the word "lucifer" in Latin and assumeed that 
meant the Catholics were praising satan.

You would think they would investigate a little further before proclaiming 
it to the world, putting their ignorance on display.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien