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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: GNOME/Freedesktop/redhat incompetent or malicious influence Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:06:48 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vellso$1mc29$1@dont-email.me> References: <pan$bad8$b677bed3$aca0e5e2$5bb3eab5@linux.rocks> <lmjll1Fd52kU2@mid.individual.net> <slrnvgb2cp.5v0f.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <ve4go1$3ra8a$3@dont-email.me> <pan$4209e$40d36e28$c8a7c079$163ec1ab@linux.rocks> <ve5v74$2ld1n$1@dont-email.me> <ve85ik$muck$1@news1.tnib.de> <lmqm77FgsfhU2@mid.individual.net> <ve9cas$39mav$2@dont-email.me> <lmr1s2FiegjU5@mid.individual.net> <vee95e$7vmp$3@dont-email.me> <7e9ae282-321f-8688-1e0e-3172c67d5f38@example.net> <vef5cl$cdhq$1@dont-email.me> <db637451-f96c-1223-5d5a-71dbb4da678b@example.net> <vegjhv$mnuu$3@dont-email.me> <45d3008b-aa45-0c76-27bf-7cfb2fa66322@example.net> <vehiau$rofa$1@dont-email.me> <slrnvgomvl.lasu.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <vei7u4$12jee$1@dont-email.me> <acae19ed-18bc-b6a7-0784-f1adcdd0010c@example.net> <veispb$156pd$8@dont-email.me> <ln4m5uF3ddfU1@mid.individual.net> <vejl0e$19le5$2@dont-email.me> <ln5gqbF7bp8U1@mid.individual.net> <f15ff0c7-97ec-2128-4921-e78b6ce5b571@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:06:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c03cce574da51fb93c343a0984de0e1e"; logging-data="1781833"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6UrvJlbDVsyRAlZPzzpCg7gWsLOYxd8Q=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:O0FA61xgf6fic2hbsdXWTrNRkz4= In-Reply-To: <f15ff0c7-97ec-2128-4921-e78b6ce5b571@example.net> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3575 On 10/15/24 09:09, D wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, rbowman wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:39:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> I don't >>> want Putin running the USA like it was Chechnya. >> >> Better Putin than Soros. >> > > I have compared them both scientifically, and it is actualyl proven that > Soros society would be a nicer one, than Putins. If you step away from > the main cities in russia, the people in the country side live under > close to medieval living conditions that would make all americans revolt. > That is an unfair comparison. Putin inherited a country on the brink of collapse. He stabilised it and produced reasonable growth. Many of his problems have been caused by external pressures, which do not exist for the US. Not least of which is USA enforced sanctions. Experience in Africa show us that trying to impose liberal democracy on countries, without the social framework to handle it, can be catastrophic. Yes, Putin is a tyrant, but I suspect, currently, Russia needs a tyrant. > That's what you get with a kleptocracy and an authoritarian system built > to exploit the people and enrich its leaders. You'll have to spell out if you are talking about the USA or Russia. Today I was reading about Cryptocurrency billionaires trying to manipulate the US democratic process to remove a senator seeking to regulate them. FWIW, I don't understand why Soros is presented as an arch villain.