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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom Subject: Re: Things I never thought would appear Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:31:05 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <velna8$1mrtq$4@dont-email.me> References: <lomggjdgr9uo147ijjh6kr3bhikg6hgfis@4ax.com> <vea3a7$3c88g$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> <vea9el$hvu$1@reader1.panix.com> <veb06k$3kqos$1@dont-email.me> <veb39n$e2f$1@reader1.panix.com> <vebpnr$3olmo$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:31:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c4da4ea2699688edac764e3a8e880415"; logging-data="1798074"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX191YpAFOoEeYYnzTSzgm2Gs" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:rNeXw3Com5yiaoM3E0yf1b9cn28= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vebpnr$3olmo$2@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 241015-2, 10/15/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 2164 On 10/11/2024 11:11 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote: > On 10/11/24 7:48 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote: >> Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote: >>> I don't think "human-level machine intelligence" is meaningful, >>> because computation to carry out tasks and cognition to further the >>> existence of a living organism aren't commensurable. >> >> I'm not convinced of that. Nobody has come up with a task that a >> person could do but that no computer could ever do. There are tasks >> that it's been proven computers can't do, but no person has proven >> able to do them either. > > Make a baby? > A robot computer manufacturing plant? Or even just computer chip plant? -- Qualified immunity = virtual impunity. Tim Merrigan -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com