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From: "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com>
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"Richard Smith"  wrote in message news:m18quqowx8.fsf@void.com...

The value to society of seeing where our forebearers scraped a living is
so very very high.
So the risks while known are accepted.  Someone somewhere will be in the
wrong place at the wrong time - but to lose contact with forebearers and
continuity is a "no way" for our societies.
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I live in a somewhat sparsely populated hilly to mountainous state next to a 
flat highly urban one whose residents flock here for vacations. Over the 
weekend the TV ran a warning that hiking in the mountains requires more cold 
weather preparation than many arrive with, being used to always having warm 
indoor shelter nearby. Specifically, don't climb in October wearing sneakers 
or even shorts and sandals. Crosses mark where hikers froze to death in 
July. Several times I've seen mountain hikers very poorly prepared for the 
arctic wind and cold and deep snow at altitude while it's sunny and warm 
where they parked, a few miles away. While descending late in the day in 
January, equipped as for Mt Everest, we met and escorted back a group of 
teens struggling uphill through the snow in light jackets and sneakers. 
Another hiker and I made winter gear and were testing my goose down parka 
and his snowshoe climbing grips.

NH mountains aren't particularly high but their weather can be similar to 
northern Labrador. We don't benefit from Gulf Stream warmth as you do, we 
get Norwegian cold (-20C) at Italian latitude (42N). Our urbanites have 
become used to thinking that the world is safe and not staying alert or 
taking precautions.