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"R Kym Horsell" <kymhorsell@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:vemc9b$drq$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com...
> In alt.global-warming Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "kensi" <kkensington01-NOSPAM@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:vek84k$h77n$1@paganini.bofh.team...
>>> On 2024-10-14 12:38 a.m., JTEM Is Extremely KOoky burbled:
>>>> Gwobull Warbling isn't global.
>>>
>>> Since you made up that term, presumably it's whatever you want it to be,
>>> koOky. What it's not is relevant to the discussion here.
>>>
>>> The earlier "warm periods" were Europe and the Mediterranean, Europe and
>>> the North Atlantic, or similar regional warmings.
>>
>> Prove it.
>
> You can't "prove" anything to a nitwit.

That can't be true.. they were able to prove it to you.

I will just note that when asked to back up your claims the result was lame 
insults....

1) Ad hominen


> In this case a
> disingenuous nitwit.

Like this one.

2) Ad hominen

> And anyone at this stage that can't accept the changes 200y of
> burning material that has been out of the biosphere for 100 mn years
> (therefore turning back the clock 100 mn y) must be unable
> to pass grade 6 science.

Well that's a classic

3) Non sequitur
>
> Even Exxon execs in the 70s acked the science.

4) Appeal to authority



What I don't see is any proof.. After all, according to your thinking.. we 
would NEVER have warming periods in the past, because according to you ONLY 
fossil fuel use could POSSIBLY cause such.

And yet, the history of climate is filled with examples of period of cooling 
followed by periods of warming.

So unless you can show that fossil fuel use was the cause then.. you can not 
assert it must be the cause not.

Could merely be a coincidence, or maybe something else entirely. Such as 
core temperature fluctuation. Solar luminosity/spectrum shift. We already 
know for a fact that Sol has a variable output. We know for example of the 
11 year cycle of the sun. Who is to say there aren't other cycles. longer 
cycles that govern solar output and this global warmth?

You have a trend. You find something that seems to correlate.. and 
immediately assert causality.

We even know that CO2 in the atmosphere changes over time.. including before 
man was even on the scene. Indeed based on past cycles a cycle of increase 
CO2 could be expected at this time based on prior history.

So to simply assert this and only this MUST be the cause.. is a fallacy, 
unsupported by any proof.

At best you have a correlation, but mere correlation does NOT establish 
causality.

I would point that that even if what you said it true.. our best course of 
action would be to ban ALL trade with China.
Their increases in CO2 emissions dwarfs that of any other nation and the 
rate of increase utterly negates ANY attempt by the rest of the planet to 
lower CO2 emissions.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/animation-top-15-carbon-emitters-1850-2022/

So if you're serious.. I expect you to be calling for a complete embargo of 
Chinese goods... otherwise, piss off.