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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:31:55 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vemfvd$1qs7e$1@dont-email.me> References: <m1froyjvq9.fsf@void.com> <vejuqp$1b6iq$1@dont-email.me> <m18quqowx8.fsf@void.com> <veltbn$1nvni$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:31:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12ac099eca3beeadb1bacf4fac8244d2"; logging-data="1929454"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/wmNHHDplCj455vFpZahOQred4BGMyyqU=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:V9javMNNB4yVBSiPRWNgmiODzBo= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 241015-2, 10/15/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <veltbn$1nvni$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3237 On 10/15/2024 9:13 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote: > "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:m18quqowx8.fsf@void.com... > > The value to society of seeing where our forebearers scraped a living is > so very very high. > So the risks while known are accepted. Someone somewhere will be in the > wrong place at the wrong time - but to lose contact with forebearers and > continuity is a "no way" for our societies. > ---------------------------------- > > I live in a somewhat sparsely populated hilly to mountainous state next > to a flat highly urban one whose residents flock here for vacations. > Over the weekend the TV ran a warning that hiking in the mountains > requires more cold weather preparation than many arrive with, being used > to always having warm indoor shelter nearby. Specifically, don't climb > in October wearing sneakers or even shorts and sandals. Crosses mark > where hikers froze to death in July. Several times I've seen mountain > hikers very poorly prepared for the arctic wind and cold and deep snow > at altitude while it's sunny and warm where they parked, a few miles > away. While descending late in the day in January, equipped as for Mt > Everest, we met and escorted back a group of teens struggling uphill > through the snow in light jackets and sneakers. Another hiker and I made > winter gear and were testing my goose down parka and his snowshoe > climbing grips. > > NH mountains aren't particularly high but their weather can be similar > to northern Labrador. We don't benefit from Gulf Stream warmth as you > do, we get Norwegian cold (-20C) at Italian latitude (42N). Our > urbanites have become used to thinking that the world is safe and not > staying alert or taking precautions. > Sounds like a good way to cull the incurably stupid among us ... our culture has pretty much eliminated natural selection . -- Snag Voting for Kamabla after Biden is like changing your shirt because you shit your pants .