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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Byte ordering Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 07:36:29 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <venjcu$23p27$1@dont-email.me> References: <vekb2f$1co97$6@dont-email.me> <memo.20241015184006.19028o@jgd.cix.co.uk> <ogvtgjhh4eujri9p7biok6c14qd9mv40v3@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 07:36:30 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="25f7728f3d93acce23696a2b8d2bbf01"; logging-data="2221127"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18shKa0o8PA1FICqiPtkpsbmzlFRe5l2vcwYB3OMvrrCQ==" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:b3L0YqtNtwIvSAu9Ndup5K68Grw= In-Reply-To: <ogvtgjhh4eujri9p7biok6c14qd9mv40v3@4ax.com> George Neuner wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:40 +0100 (BST), jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) > wrote: > >> In article <vekb2f$1co97$6@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence >> D'Oliveiro) wrote: >> >>> On the other hand, some stubborn holdouts are still fond of >>> microkernels -- you just have to say the whole idea is pointless, >>> and they come out of the woodwork in a futile attempt to disagree >> >> The idea is impractical, not pointless. A hybrid kernel gives most of the >> advantages of a microkernel to its developers, and avoids the need for >> lots of context switches. It doesn't let you easily replace low-level OS >> components, but not many people actually want that. > > Actually, I think there are a whole lot of people who can't afford > non-stop server hardware but would greatly appreciate not having to > waste time with a shutdown/reboot every time some OS component gets > updated. > > YMMV. This is _exactly_ (one of) the problem(s) cloud infrastructure solves: As soon as you have more than a single instance of a particular server/service, then you replace them in groups so that the service sees zero downtime even though all the servers have been updated/replaced. Terje -- - <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no> "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"