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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:23:36 +0300
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On 2024-10-15 12:57:25 +0000, olcott said:

> On 10/15/2024 3:33 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-10-14 15:18:43 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>> On 10/14/2024 7:06 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:49:22 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to the
>>>>>>> premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of DDD and HHH.
>>>>>>> *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No reasoning shown.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e
>>>>> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be wrong when
>>>>> it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does terminate it
>>>>> will explain your mistake to you.
>>>> It is nonsensical for HHH not to report that DDD terminates.
>>>> 
>>> The explanation is quite good. I will take what you said
>>> to mean that it was over your head or didn't bother to
>>> look at it.
>>> 
>>> You never confirmed that you even know what infinite
>>> recursion is.
>> 
>> Could you confirm that you know whether there is an infinite recursion
>> in DDD?
>> 
> 
> Recursive emulation is isomorphic to recursion.
> 
> The following is to be understood only within my
> stipulative definitions of terms provided in my first
> reply to you today.
> 
> Recursive emulation that does not have a termination
> condition within the c function under test is infinite.
> 
> This refers to my stipulative definition of terms
> provided in my first reply to you. To the best of my
> knowledge these definitions are also industry standard.

This can be interpreted as an overly verbose 'No'.

-- 
Mikko