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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:23:36 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 53 Message-ID: <veopa8$2ameu$1@dont-email.me> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> <36ecdefcca730806c7bd9ec03e326fac1a9c8464@i2pn2.org> <vejcoj$1879f$1@dont-email.me> <vel9ct$1l118$1@dont-email.me> <velorl$1n3gb$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 18:23:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c2b64c8d9d5f91cba6202ffc6fb76962"; logging-data="2447838"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/MtYvN6vtE5DC0MGLcTZq8" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:pEAZl1iwY4e3kNJfYH6K4SwB6YA= Bytes: 2941 On 2024-10-15 12:57:25 +0000, olcott said: > On 10/15/2024 3:33 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-10-14 15:18:43 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 10/14/2024 7:06 AM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:49:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie: >>>> >>>>>>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to the >>>>>>> premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of DDD and HHH. >>>>>>> *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning* >>>>>> >>>>>> No reasoning shown. >>>>>> >>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e >>>>> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be wrong when >>>>> it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does terminate it >>>>> will explain your mistake to you. >>>> It is nonsensical for HHH not to report that DDD terminates. >>>> >>> The explanation is quite good. I will take what you said >>> to mean that it was over your head or didn't bother to >>> look at it. >>> >>> You never confirmed that you even know what infinite >>> recursion is. >> >> Could you confirm that you know whether there is an infinite recursion >> in DDD? >> > > Recursive emulation is isomorphic to recursion. > > The following is to be understood only within my > stipulative definitions of terms provided in my first > reply to you today. > > Recursive emulation that does not have a termination > condition within the c function under test is infinite. > > This refers to my stipulative definition of terms > provided in my first reply to you. To the best of my > knowledge these definitions are also industry standard. This can be interpreted as an overly verbose 'No'. -- Mikko