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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 18:55:58 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <veor6u$2asus$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <vdu4mt$18h8h$1@dont-email.me> <vdu874$271t$2@news.muc.de> <vdua6f$18vqi$2@dont-email.me> <vdubg3$24me$1@news.muc.de> <4bc3b086-247a-4547-89cc-1d47f502659d@tha.de> <ve0n4i$1vps$1@news.muc.de> <ve10qb$1p7ge$1@dont-email.me> <ve117p$vob$1@news.muc.de> <ve315q$24f8f$3@dont-email.me> <ve46vu$324$2@news.muc.de> <ve5u2i$2jobg$4@dont-email.me> <ve6329$19d5$1@news.muc.de> <ve64kl$2m0nm$4@dont-email.me> <ve66f3$19d5$2@news.muc.de> <ve683o$6c2o$1@solani.org> <09d9f0df-b1bb-42a7-af9b-890bfbcfc581@att.net> <b0fa9a1c-8375-4523-a15e-65789688660e@tha.de> <3f63bc22-83b2-4d56-9837-849551170c77@att.net> <50ac7044-f8c1-47d9-947f-9fa6044e1848@tha.de> <68b8be64-7fe8-47e7-a991-7adf14713af5@att.net> <vejmkm$e069$1@solani.org> <eb21591a-a60a-4baf-bdbd-afef2a69c230@att.net> <vejte9$e3ds$1@solani.org> <53460f91-4542-4a92-bc4b-833c2ad61e52@att.net> <ventec$255vi$2@dont-email.me> <venunr$2533b$4@dont-email.me> <29ce40e9-f18a-44d4-84d9-23e587cf9dea@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 18:55:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bdae612cd8a81ed65298b962abfb789c"; logging-data="2454492"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+Dhmy3Eh0coei3IE0FO0L+hW95okyLn8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2qw0//aCiEM3CbEnmFnbC5Cb85g= In-Reply-To: <29ce40e9-f18a-44d4-84d9-23e587cf9dea@att.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3157 On 16.10.2024 17:34, Jim Burns wrote: > On 10/16/2024 4:50 AM, WM wrote: >>> There is a general rule not open to further discussion: >>> When doubling natural numbers >>> we obtain natural numbers which >>> have not been doubled. >> >> CORRECTION: >> When doubling natural numbers >> we obtain even numbers which have not been doubled. > > The set S of ordinals which > are finite and for which > their double is not finite > is empty. Maybe. Then not all natural numbers have been doubled. > > When doubling natural numbers (finite ordinals) > we obtain natural numbers. Maybe. > > When doubling all natural numbers > we obtain only natural numbers. That is impossible. > >>> In potential infinity >>> we obtain more even natural numbers >>> than have been doubled. >>> In actual infinity >>> we double ℕ and obtain >>> neither ℕ or a subset of ℕ. > > There is a general rule not open to further discussion: > The natural numbers ℕ equal the finite ordinals 𝕆ᶠⁱⁿ That is only possible in potential infinity. But there the result is worthless. Regards, WM