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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The actual truth is that ... industry standard stipulative definitions Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:14:55 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <veosaf$29dtl$8@dont-email.me> References: <ve39pb$24k00$1@dont-email.me> <veb557$3lbkf$2@dont-email.me> <2e6d8fc76e4e70decca1df44f49b338e61cc557e@i2pn2.org> <vebchp$3m87o$1@dont-email.me> <1071eb58637e27c9b2b99052ddb14701a147d23a@i2pn2.org> <vebeu2$3mp5v$1@dont-email.me> <58fef4e221da8d8bc3c274b9ee4d6b7b5dd82990@i2pn2.org> <vebmta$3nqde$1@dont-email.me> <99541b6e95dc30204bf49057f8f4c4496fbcc3db@i2pn2.org> <vedb3s$3g3a$1@dont-email.me> <vedibm$4891$2@dont-email.me> <72315c1456c399b2121b3fffe90b933be73e39b6@i2pn2.org> <vee6s1$7l0f$1@dont-email.me> <1180775691cf24be4a082676bc531877147202e3@i2pn2.org> <veec23$8jnq$1@dont-email.me> <c81fcbf97a35bd428495b0e70f3b54e545e8ae59@i2pn2.org> <vef37r$bknp$2@dont-email.me> <7e79306e9771378b032e6832548eeef7429888c4@i2pn2.org> <veikaf$14fb3$1@dont-email.me> <veipmb$15764$2@dont-email.me> <c56fcfcf793d65bebd7d17db4fccafd1b8dea072@i2pn2.org> <vejfg0$1879f$3@dont-email.me> <velajq$1l69v$1@dont-email.me> <velnfc$1n3gb$1@dont-email.me> <vent54$255ab$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f097d53e4abea8ea9babea4b430282e3"; logging-data="2406325"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1896On8clX4wcJIEKAviA0k" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ap22GBRX+tZNNAQezUSJgYwvX8Q= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vent54$255ab$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3848 On 10/16/2024 3:23 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-10-15 12:33:47 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 10/15/2024 3:54 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-10-14 16:05:20 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> A stipulative definition is a type of definition in which >>>> a new or currently existing term is given a new specific >>>> meaning for the purposes of argument or discussion in a >>>> given context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipulative_definition >>>> >>>> *Disagreeing with a stipulative definition is incorrect* >>> >>> The Wikipedia page does not say that. It only says that a stipulative >>> definition itself cannot be correct. >> >> If X cannot be incorrect then disagreeing that X is correct >> is incorrect. > > While agreement with a definition is incorrect in some sense one > can choose whether to accept the or reject the definition. > >>> It says nothing about disagreement. >>> In particular, one may diagree with the usefulness of a stipulative >>> definition. >> >> It seems that my reviewers on this forum make being disagreeable >> a top priority. > > Irrelevant. Not at all. If reviewers are lying about my work that is libelous. > >>> The article also says that the scope of a stipulative definition is >>> restricted to an argument or discussion in given context. >> >> Once a stipulated definition is provided by its author it continues >> to apply to every use of this term when properly qualified. > > No, it applies only to the contributions of the author and of those who > use the term without giving a different definition, and only in the > discussion where it was presented. > "properly qualified" -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer