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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 13:35:01 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <vep10l$2brl4$1@dont-email.me> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> <36ecdefcca730806c7bd9ec03e326fac1a9c8464@i2pn2.org> <vejcoj$1879f$1@dont-email.me> <034767682966b9ac642993dd2fa0d181c21dfffc@i2pn2.org> <vekj4q$1hrgd$1@dont-email.me> <f8a15594bf0623a229214e2fb62ce4f4a2bd7116@i2pn2.org> <velpm2$1n3gb$6@dont-email.me> <8f12bccec21234ec3802cdb3df63fd9566ba9b07@i2pn2.org> <vemc30$1q255$1@dont-email.me> <3b7102e401dc2d872ab53fd94fc433841caf3170@i2pn2.org> <vemhn0$1qqfr$2@dont-email.me> <bfa96cc6bd41f1351cf3c47ec5712b7fc3803f6d@i2pn2.org> <vemo4j$1roph$1@dont-email.me> <82cb937f8012d3353dde47aa2d8565883d10a92a@i2pn2.org> <veof7v$284qn$3@dont-email.me> <4b093cf3a6d52cfe4e763a81d623eb66c817cb7f@i2pn2.org> <veohia$29dtl$1@dont-email.me> <a70bf39f5d3d3ba1f34130dc60d735cc32c8f779@i2pn2.org> <veomn9$29dtl$3@dont-email.me> <b9f7bcdf67813f0f96d550b78ac6b2d25d414ee8@i2pn2.org> <veou4p$2baph$3@dont-email.me> <45e53fc60dfc649ed11a8704e5d860766dd88955@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 20:35:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f097d53e4abea8ea9babea4b430282e3"; logging-data="2485924"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/GkeJi0iSXJCfkTaDmkzDJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8F8cl/WTurxu5GLwoZYbsEfmqls= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <45e53fc60dfc649ed11a8704e5d860766dd88955@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4086 On 10/16/2024 1:06 PM, joes wrote: > Am Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:46:01 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 10/16/2024 12:27 PM, joes wrote: >>> Am Wed, 16 Oct 2024 10:39:21 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 10/16/2024 9:45 AM, joes wrote: >>>>> Am Wed, 16 Oct 2024 09:11:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>> On 10/16/2024 9:01 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>> Am Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:31:43 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>> On 10/16/2024 1:33 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>> Am Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:51:15 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 4:24 PM, joes wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> Terminating C functions must reach their "return" statement. >>>>>>> Which DDD does. >>>>>> THIS IS ALSO THE INDUSTRY STANDARD DEFINITION It is stipulated that >>>>>> *correct_x86_emulation* means that a finite string of x86 >>>>>> instructions is emulated according to the semantics of the x86 >>>>>> language beginning with the first bytes of this string. >>>>> You are not simulating the given program, but a version that differs >>>>> in the abort check. >>>> HHH is correctly emulating (not simulating) the x86 language finite >>>> string of DDD including emulating the finite string of itself >>>> emulating the finite string of DDD up until the point where the >>>> emulated emulated DDD would call HHH(DDD) again. >>> Whereupon the simulated HHH would abort, if it weren't unnecessarily >>> aborted. >> If the first HHH to meet its abort criteria does not act on this >> criteria then none of them do. > And if the first one does, all of them do. > In theory this seems true when ignoring or failing to comprehend key details. No sense going on about this. It is just over your head. >>>>>> When HHH is an x86 emulation based termination analyzer then each >>>>>> DDD *correctly_emulated_by* any HHH that it calls never returns. >>>>> It is not a correct emulation if it has a different termination >>>>> status. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer