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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: National Dictionary Day (16 October) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:37:04 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vepf6q$2ear1$1@dont-email.me> References: <veo135$26a5c$1@dont-email.me> <veogtf$29cop$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: r.clark@auckland.ac.nz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 00:37:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bfbc3f935bcf9ecffc6c0065aa822812"; logging-data="2567009"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+yktQga6MyoHpmq5t4a3FA0DNy/+2qsEU=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:l7mnMR3ueKaV/emd6Q2msRXZ9/8= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <veogtf$29cop$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2757 On 17/10/2024 3:00 a.m., Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2024-10-16 09:30:04 +0000, Ross Clark said: > >> "National" here is American. And the day is the birthday of Noah >> Webster (16/10/1758-28/5/1843). Author of the "National Dictionary". >> Actually called The American Dictionary of the English Language. >> Published 1828. 25 years in the making, 2,000 pages, 70,000 entries. >> Price $20.00. >> >> "A great number of words in our language require to be defined in a >> phraseology accommodated to the condition and institutions of the >> people in these states, and the people of England must look to an >> American Dictionary for a correct understanding of such terms." >> (from the Preface) >> >> This almost reads like a claim that the American senses are the >> correct ones. But I think he is taking the much more reasonable >> position that where UK and US usage diverge, if UK speakers want to >> know about the US usage, it makes sense for them to consult an >> American dictionary. >> >> Webster's first big success was a Spelling Book (1783), which sold and >> sold for decades, and made him a household (or schoolroom) name. He >> had some good ideas about improved spelling, several of which have >> become standard for USEng. > > Others of which have not: "Noah Webster's assertion in his 1828 > dictionary—'Our common orthography is incorrect; the true spelling is > tung'" hasn't stood the test of time. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Webster >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster%27s_Dictionary > Too bad. Webster was right.