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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work --- correct emulation Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:25:38 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 64 Message-ID: <vepli3$2f3g0$2@dont-email.me> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> <36ecdefcca730806c7bd9ec03e326fac1a9c8464@i2pn2.org> <vejcoj$1879f$1@dont-email.me> <034767682966b9ac642993dd2fa0d181c21dfffc@i2pn2.org> <vekj4q$1hrgd$1@dont-email.me> <f8a15594bf0623a229214e2fb62ce4f4a2bd7116@i2pn2.org> <velpm2$1n3gb$6@dont-email.me> <8f12bccec21234ec3802cdb3df63fd9566ba9b07@i2pn2.org> <vemc30$1q255$1@dont-email.me> <3b7102e401dc2d872ab53fd94fc433841caf3170@i2pn2.org> <vemhn0$1qqfr$2@dont-email.me> <61ffc8131435005aaf8976ddbf109b8f16c77668@i2pn2.org> <ven83o$2230b$1@dont-email.me> <a20cf5f40db4e9e4e5023a48d13e220443c4dea7@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 02:25:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3be8f25ba68f32da41cba57b2c08635d"; logging-data="2592256"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX188Sr9hdkbhK3FfC7JvNI3M" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:s22jqqF3v9KOOIubNbimeThO0Do= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <a20cf5f40db4e9e4e5023a48d13e220443c4dea7@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4359 On 10/16/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/15/24 10:23 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/15/2024 9:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 10/15/24 4:01 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 10/15/2024 2:33 PM, joes wrote: >>>>> Am Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:25:36 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>> On 10/15/2024 10:17 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>> Am Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:11:30 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 6:35 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 10/14/24 10:13 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 6:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/24 11:18 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 7:06 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:49:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e >>>>>>>>>> When >>>>>>>>>> you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be wrong >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does >>>>>>>>>> terminate it >>>>>>>>>> will explain your mistake to you. >>>>>>>>> I did that, and it admitted that DDD halts, it just tries to >>>>>>>>> justify >>>>>>>>> why a wrong answer must be right. >>>>>>>> It explains in great detail that another different DDD (same >>>>>>>> machine >>>>>>>> code different process context) seems to terminate only because the >>>>>>>> recursive emulation that it specifies has been aborted at its >>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>> recursive call. >>>>>>> Yes! It really has different code, by way of the static Root >>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>> No wonder it behaves differently. >>>>>> There are no static root variables. There never has been any "not >>>>>> a pure >>>>>> function of its inputs" aspect to emulation. >>>> >>>>> Oh, did you take out the check if HHH is the root simulator? >>>>> >>>> >>>> There is some code that was obsolete several years ago. >>> >>> No, that code is still active. it is the source of the value for the >>> variable Root that is passed around, and is checked in the code to >>> alter the behavior. >>> >> >> It has no effect on the trace itself. > > Yes it does. > HHH is correctly emulating (not simulating) the x86 language finite string of DDD including emulating the finite string of itself emulating the finite string of DDD up until the point where the emulated emulated DDD would call HHH(DDD) again. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer