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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work --- correct emulation Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:55:18 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 79 Message-ID: <vepn9n$2f3g0$4@dont-email.me> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> <36ecdefcca730806c7bd9ec03e326fac1a9c8464@i2pn2.org> <vejcoj$1879f$1@dont-email.me> <034767682966b9ac642993dd2fa0d181c21dfffc@i2pn2.org> <vekj4q$1hrgd$1@dont-email.me> <f8a15594bf0623a229214e2fb62ce4f4a2bd7116@i2pn2.org> <velpm2$1n3gb$6@dont-email.me> <8f12bccec21234ec3802cdb3df63fd9566ba9b07@i2pn2.org> <vemc30$1q255$1@dont-email.me> <3b7102e401dc2d872ab53fd94fc433841caf3170@i2pn2.org> <vemhn0$1qqfr$2@dont-email.me> <61ffc8131435005aaf8976ddbf109b8f16c77668@i2pn2.org> <ven83o$2230b$1@dont-email.me> <a20cf5f40db4e9e4e5023a48d13e220443c4dea7@i2pn2.org> <vepli3$2f3g0$2@dont-email.me> <0975f9e6532bcbcb01481c57539fcd45e6b2ff8b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 02:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3be8f25ba68f32da41cba57b2c08635d"; logging-data="2592256"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19WhtNtPeJXSlBbu1XVFpt3" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:E7Rl7huSihSECzjhNKDGiZNGInE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <0975f9e6532bcbcb01481c57539fcd45e6b2ff8b@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4996 On 10/16/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/16/24 8:25 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/16/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 10/15/24 10:23 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 10/15/2024 9:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 10/15/24 4:01 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 10/15/2024 2:33 PM, joes wrote: >>>>>>> Am Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:25:36 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 10:17 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>> Am Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:11:30 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 6:35 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/24 10:13 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 6:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/24 11:18 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 7:06 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:49:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://chatgpt.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e When >>>>>>>>>>>> you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be >>>>>>>>>>>> wrong when >>>>>>>>>>>> it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does >>>>>>>>>>>> terminate it >>>>>>>>>>>> will explain your mistake to you. >>>>>>>>>>> I did that, and it admitted that DDD halts, it just tries to >>>>>>>>>>> justify >>>>>>>>>>> why a wrong answer must be right. >>>>>>>>>> It explains in great detail that another different DDD (same >>>>>>>>>> machine >>>>>>>>>> code different process context) seems to terminate only >>>>>>>>>> because the >>>>>>>>>> recursive emulation that it specifies has been aborted at its >>>>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>>>> recursive call. >>>>>>>>> Yes! It really has different code, by way of the static Root >>>>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>>>> No wonder it behaves differently. >>>>>>>> There are no static root variables. There never has been any >>>>>>>> "not a pure >>>>>>>> function of its inputs" aspect to emulation. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, did you take out the check if HHH is the root simulator? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There is some code that was obsolete several years ago. >>>>> >>>>> No, that code is still active. it is the source of the value for >>>>> the variable Root that is passed around, and is checked in the code >>>>> to alter the behavior. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It has no effect on the trace itself. >>> >>> Yes it does. >>> >> >> HHH is correctly emulating (not simulating) the x86 language >> finite string of DDD including emulating the finite string of >> itself emulating the finite string of DDD up until the point >> where the emulated emulated DDD would call HHH(DDD) again. >> >> > > Nope, not to a degree that determine the final behavior of the input. > This is your ADD. You are responding to something that I did not say. Like I said that I do, try rereading the above paragraph sixteen times. I will dumb it down for you so you can get the gist of it. HHH correctly emulates N steps of DDD therefore N steps of DDD are correctly emulated by HHH. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer