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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: A state transition diagram proves ... Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 22:47:59 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <veslpf$34ogr$1@dont-email.me> References: <ves6p1$2uoln$1@dont-email.me> <3232d8a0cc7b5d4bba46321bf682c94573bf1b7c@i2pn2.org> <vesemu$2v7sh$1@dont-email.me> <a9fb95eb0ed914d0d9775448c005111eb43f2c5b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 05:48:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="038c6a2fd0ca42e5af4fa5df3c3c0f47"; logging-data="3301915"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+PbhT9z/U7nD5zwfd19Am8" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:HxSWgbVc7iUv+KsQCEiu1gyuToE= In-Reply-To: <a9fb95eb0ed914d0d9775448c005111eb43f2c5b@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241017-22, 10/17/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 2815 On 10/17/2024 10:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/17/24 9:47 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/17/2024 8:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 10/17/24 7:31 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>>> When DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according >>>> to the semantics of the x86 language DDD cannot >>>> possibly reach its own machine address [00002183] >>>> no matter what HHH does. >>>> >>>> +-->[00002172]-->[00002173]-->[00002175]-->[0000217a]--+ >>>> +------------------------------------------------------+ >>>> >>>> That may not line up that same way when view >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_diagram >>>> >>> >>> >>> Except that 0000217a doesn't go to 00002172, but to 000015d2 >>> >> >> IS THIS OVER YOUR HEAD? >> What is the first machine address of DDD that HHH >> emulating itself emulating DDD would reach? >> > > Yes, HHH EMULATES the code at that address, Which HHH emulates what code at which address? -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer