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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Lunduke's video on this latest issue
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On 2024-10-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-10-17 à 02 h 52, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-10-16 à 18 h 37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>>>> once and for all.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
>>>> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>>>
>>> I doubt that the forefathers could have foretold that there would
>>> eventually be technology which facilitates government surveillance and
>>> that most people would willingly buy, use and install it in their homes
>>> in an effort to make their lives less miserable.
>> 
>> The full fourth amendment...
>> 
>>     The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
>>     and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
>>     violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
>>     by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
>>     searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
>> 
>> Perhaps Lawrence would like to review implications of that amendment.
>> Definitely rules out surveillance without probable cause — and without an
>> oath or affirmation, SPECIFICALLY describing the place, person and things to
>> be seized.
>> 
>> So, yes, law abiding citizens of the United States do have the right to
>> privacy, guaranteed in the Constitution.
>
> I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly 
> install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be 
> used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For 
> example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household 
> conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be 
> to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit. Despite that, people 
> buy the product and put it in their homes because it somehow makes life 
> more exciting for them. If I not mistaken, the Fourth Amendment only 
> protects you against an outsider setting such equipment up in your house 
> without your permission and if you are not part of an investigation.

I don't allow Alexa or Google... whatever... in my house. For a while one of 
my wife's relatives wanted to run pictures of the extended family 
continually through our living room TV, using the Google version of Alexa. I 
kept unplugging it and they finally gave up and took the damn thing away. I 
didn't even know that's what they were using for the "slide show" that until 
I started to play music on my Android phone, and it wanted to broadcast it 
on the Google Alexa thing. That's when I started unplugging it.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien