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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What is "local time"? Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 11:41:59 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 49 Message-ID: <vet70n$37oav$1@dont-email.me> References: <M0ZS0z9of5m3zPojotZe3TGunn4@jntp> <venvh6$262al$1@dont-email.me> <4P8P35rGVs_krWmhPcI_Wdi0QP0@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 10:41:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="39d4ae5cdaca1d98eedfd42dc1e81d87"; logging-data="3400031"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/fe1O8gEaFQmk4bm2+Bcrt" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:3Gjcu+C+o+IKPJQ4rcJzyFYs0u4= Bytes: 2193 On 2024-10-16 13:07:58 +0000, Richard Hachel said: > Le 16/10/2024 à 11:03, Mikko a écrit : >> On 2024-10-14 11:28:45 +0000, Richard Hachel said: >> >>> What is "local time" in relativity? >> >> The expression is usually not used in Relativity. In particular, >> Einstein did not use it. > > You may be right. > For my part, I firmly believe that a lot of words or concepts should be > completely abandoned. A lot of words and concepts are already abandoned. > This will make many relativity lovers jump, I think, but I think it is > "necessary for the song" and that one day, we will have to go through > it. > Example of words or concepts that are TOTALLY useless, even biased. > "local time", Not used. > "relativity of simultaneity by change of reference frame", Can be used as a reminder but does not mean much. > "local present time", Not used. > "hypercone of present time", Not used as "present time", if used, is usually defined as a hyperplane, not a hypercone. > "invariance of the space-time interval", Space-time interval is invariant. > "time-gap": we don't need all of this. Does not exist except as a false impression from an approximation so only rarely used. -- Mikko