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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Oscillators in LTspice Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:26:20 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <vevcdp$3nbhr$1@dont-email.me> References: <veu2ki$3cmo3$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 06:26:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2e8ed10202c51ba77170da41ac256836"; logging-data="3911227"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/gfhnCFWmRRyavMXudtTohZB95wRGvsxA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:G78nldImweJ/WUGBbPDs3RbSeJg= In-Reply-To: <veu2ki$3cmo3$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241018-10, 19/10/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 1859 On 19/10/2024 3:33 am, Cursitor Doom wrote: > Gentlemen, > > I've never spiced an oscillator AFAICR. Do they self-start in spice > simulators (LT in particular)? IOW, did Mike Engleheart build something > into the engine which generates wideband 'background' noise, particularly > at 'power up' as it were? I'm assuming there must be some such mechanism > and if there is, it must be present by default for all schematics one > attempts to simulate and not just oscillators? They don't usually self-start. Rounding errors in the arithmetic do act as a source of wide-band noise, but for any practical simulation you set up the initial conditions to launch the oscillation at an appreciable fraction of the steady state amplitude. -- Bill Sloman, Sydhey