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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The Shapiro's experiment HOAX. A 1968 TIME article. Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:05:48 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 64 Message-ID: <vf004q$3qve2$1@dont-email.me> References: <db18709b6ba689b9c07245000ff1b094@www.novabbs.com> <EgMPO.1766243$4J12.285784@fx12.ams4> <670ffed7$1$32085$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <2fcf10d29b40e102861392bbb5f1cb0c@www.novabbs.com> <6712b99d$0$12930$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <788c11c48cd3bd847cf3812e2bd0fe2c@www.novabbs.com> <1f1b6e5f22e115b849ed4dc6fb087e8e@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:03:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f1cf0e6f978e960f15f8d074b05686db"; logging-data="4029890"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19b5l08Qy1nMswCgE7lU2cp" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5v6OLfqV2JJSfFQ35LWEFx9zfQg= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <1f1b6e5f22e115b849ed4dc6fb087e8e@www.novabbs.com> Den 19.10.2024 02:13, skrev rhertz: > I want to highlight some "relativistic assertions" about Shapiro's > delay, so the idiot relativists that support this crap may enter in > reason: > > 1. For Venus: over a distance of more than 260 million Km (Earth and > Venus on opposite side of the Sun), being that light takes about 867 > seconds for a 1-Way trip, a Shapiro's delay of about 150 usec MAKES > SENSE for space navigation. This is a difference of about 4.3 ppm in the > transit. > > > WHO CARES? WHAT IS A VALID SCIENTIFIC ASSERTION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF > THIS ALLEGED DELAY, WHEN SPACE NAVIGATION IS BASED ON MUCH MORE SERIOUS > AND REAL FORMULAE, ALGORITHMS AND REAL TIME ONBOARD TRAJECTORY > PROCESSING? > > Only to show that GR is a real thing? IMBECILES. > > 2. If there is no alignment of planets in such a way that they are on a > line of sight VERY FAR FROM SUN'S SURFACE, the alleged delay fall 10 > times, and the "error" is then about 0.43 ppm. DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW > IMBECILES ARE IN BELIEVING THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT? > > 3. Making things worse, enter the French people, stealing data from > HIPPARCOS and claiming that they resolved the REAL POSITION of hundred > of stars with precision in the order of tens of micro-arcseconds. > > WHO, IN ITS SANE STATE OF MIND, CAN AFFIRM THAT THIS HIPPARCOS HOAX HAS > THE LEAST PRACTICAL VALUE? > > And all of the above, so relativists can claim that GR works? > > > INSANE PEOPLE, IDIOT PEOPLE, IGNORANT PEOPLE, USELESS PEOPLE, ETC. > And worse, these "scientists" make a good living standard BY STEALING > MONEY from Universities, government funds, etc. > > They are PARASITES OF SCIENCE. They CONTRIBUTE IN NOTHING to the > advancement of REAL SCIENCE, which makes a path clear for new > technological solutions. > > > Remember: USELESS SCIENCE PARASITES THAT DON'T WORTH THE AIR THEY > BREATHE. > > > > And that is the REAL HOAX about GR: LEACHES STEALING VALID RESOURCES TO > PRODUCE NOTHING, PROTECTING BETWEEN THEMSELVES AGAINST OPPOSITION, AND > DEFENDING THE CHICKEN THAT THEY STEAL FROM WHO REALLY NEED IT, DEVOURING > IT FOR FREE (SARCASM HERE). > > THE HOAX IS TO CLAIM THAT WORKS IN THIS LINE OF DOING HAVE ANY MERIT. Beautiful, Richard! Nobody can demonstrate the stupidity of Richard Hertz better than you! -- Paul https://paulba.no/