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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Location Accuracy Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:14:45 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <vf07rl$3p6nk$1@dont-email.me> References: <ln99leFoab5U1@mid.individual.net> <veo0st$249gs$2@dont-email.me> <vepucu$l9q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <FPScncV4qND5KY36nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="790811f4a0f22c8c74ea27f2c6856f0a"; logging-data="3971828"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gufom0A7lIiPZf/tQbdHbIf7gn6aEn4E=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:URXIauxyiFvXVfV7FBRgD6rtzdY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <FPScncV4qND5KY36nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Bytes: 3081 On 17/10/2024 07:53, Andy Burns wrote: > [Possible Duplicate Message] > > Andrews wrote: > >> If I recall correctly, we discussed a while ago that Google planned on >> making "precise location services" the default, which Andy just proved. > > I suspect the timing of this is due to Android15 enabling additional use > of Google's find my device network, e.g. detecting the phone being > snatched from your hand and then running/riding off with it, so it can > disable/track it. The notification for the precise location update just came through. I had a look in my settings and the Location setting notes that "Device location is off" for apps and services. But Is it? Underneath the notice it lists four apps/services which are "Allowed all the time" - Companion Device Manager, Find device, Fused location, and Shell (there are a further dozen or so apps for which location is allowed, but only when the app is in use). If I look at any of those four, the settings are all greyed out, but all have "Allow all the time" set. So are they off as they're greyed out? Well, I really don't know as towards the bottom there is a greyed out "Use precise location" on/off selector, and below that "Device requires this permission to operate". Is that just a warning that I need to turn location back on to get it to operate, or just telling me that no matter what I want, it's turned on anyway? I just turned Location on for a few seconds to see what the phone might show me, but I couldn't see anything obvious. I then turned it back off again, and very oddly those four apps I listed above now no longer showed - under "Allowed" it now shows "No apps allowed"! When this phone dies, for its replacement it'll be LineageOS, GrapheneOS, or hopefully a Pine phone if they get it working reliably. -- Jeff