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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.szaf.org!news.karotte.org!news.space.net!news.muc.de!.POSTED.news.muc.de!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:20:06 -0000 (UTC) Organization: muc.de e.V. Message-ID: <vf085m$1gf6$1@news.muc.de> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <vejte9$e3ds$1@solani.org> <53460f91-4542-4a92-bc4b-833c2ad61e52@att.net> <ventec$255vi$2@dont-email.me> <venunr$2533b$4@dont-email.me> <29ce40e9-f18a-44d4-84d9-23e587cf9dea@att.net> <veor6u$2asus$1@dont-email.me> <2b6f9104-a927-49ee-9cf0-6ee3f82edc23@att.net> <verkkk$2r6kk$1@dont-email.me> <verlk6$4dv$1@news.muc.de> <vermdv$2s24h$1@dont-email.me> <verv6f$2oo0$1@news.muc.de> <e4d00f83-42df-4f14-a007-4a90f3b5d644@tha.de> Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:20:06 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.muc.de; posting-host="news.muc.de:2001:608:1000::2"; logging-data="49638"; mail-complaints-to="news-admin@muc.de" User-Agent: tin/2.6.3-20231224 ("Banff") (FreeBSD/14.1-RELEASE-p3 (amd64)) Bytes: 2429 Lines: 33 WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> wrote: > On 17.10.2024 23:22, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> wrote: >>> If you can't understand or don't believe, then there is no common basis >>> for discussion. >> It's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of correct and rigorous >> mathematics. > When doubling natural numbers we obtain even numbers which have not been > doubled. > This is a sentence that every mathematician can understand. It is not - it is ill formed and ambiguous. It doesn't say which natural numbers are being doubled. It is unmathematical in that it seems to posit a doubling being done one element at a time, rather than the standard mathematical concept of a mapping from N -> N where n is mapped to 2n. In this standard notion, all numbers are doubled, and we encounter no undoubled even natural numbers. > It is true because the interval covered by the doubled numbers is > twice as large as the interval covered by the numbers to be doubled. The interval is infinite. "Doubling" an infinite set yields a set of the same size as the original - there is a 1-1 correspondence between them. > Regards, WM -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).