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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: CDC dairy flu Friday update
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 10:51:21 -0500
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/cdc-bird-flu-response.html

The CDC is indicating that things are worse than have been cited in the 
press in California.  Instead of 11 dairy workers infected with the 
Dairy influenza the CDC is claiming that they have confirmed 13 human 
cases.  It sounds like they had confirmed 9 of the cases this week 
ending Friday the 18th.  They are still down playing the dairy worker 
infections, and have not changed their plans of trying to deal with the 
next pandemic when it gets started instead of trying to prevent it.  You 
have to start wondering if California would have even been infected if 
the CDC and USDA had started contact tracing and testing dairy herds and 
had identified the infected herds early in the epidemic.  All the CDC 
did was tell the workers to wear protective gear when working with 
infected animals, but they refused to identify all the farms with 
infected animals so that the workers would know when they should wear 
protective gear.

Two California human cases have been confirmed by viral genomic sequence 
to be the B3.13 dairy influenza H5N1 genotype.  For some reason they do 
not state that the H5 sequences had 2 and 3 amino acid substitutions in 
them that could affect H5 antibody binding, but they do state the 
negative results that no amino acid changes in the H5 gene were those 
that would make the virus more infective in humans (They are looking for 
2 substitutions that facilitate binding to the most common human viral 
receptors) and they claim that the virus do not have the mutations that 
would make them more resistant to anti viral drugs.  In terms of their 
strategy to wait until the virus starts the next pandemic by evolving to 
be transmitted between humans the fact that their vaccine strategy will 
likely not work due to the H5 mutations in the latest human patients is 
not stated by them.

It is just a fact that the more dairy workers infected the more chance 
of the virus mutating and being selected to be more infective in a human 
host.  Instead of attempt to prevent that from happening the CDC decided 
to "monitor" the situation and wait for the virus to start being 
transmitted in the human population before trying to do something about 
it.  They stock piled H5 influenza vaccine, but the latest human 
infections had mutations in the H5 gene that likely make that vaccine 
pretty much worthless.  The CDC has admitted that the Missouri mutations 
reduced neutralizing ability of the available H5 antibodies and that 
they need to create a synthetic H5 genes with the Missouri mutations in 
it in order to test for dairy influenza antibodies in the Missouri 
patient contacts that showed symptoms.  Everyone is still waiting for 
those results that would verify human to human transmission if any of 
the contacts are positive.

The CDC just can't seem to admit that they have been wrong, and they are 
unwilling to do what California has been doing in tracing contacts and 
testing dairy herds.  California wasn't even testing the workers, they 
were just assuming that they could transmit the virus, and identified 
more infected herds than anyone else in such a short period of time, and 
in testing workers that showed symptoms they found virus positive 
workers that were obviously shedding virus.  The USDA and CDC have known 
for a very long time that it was likely infected dairy workers that took 
the virus to poultry farms.  Both Texas and Michigan determined that 
dairy workers at infected farms worked at more than one dairy, and some 
of them also worked on poultry farms (around 8% of the dairy workers at 
known infected farms also worked on poultry farms).  They knew that the 
virus only was infective off of clothing or skin for less than 30 
minutes.  They tried to claim that equipment may have been transferred 
from a dairy to the infected poultry farm in Texas because they knew 
that it would not have been the humans that took the fictional equipment 
(no equipment was ever verified to have been transferred).  They also 
knew that the infected states that had not gotten infected cattle likely 
did get migrant farm workers from infected states.  It wasn't rocket 
science, but they refused to start testing dairy workers, and perform 
contact tracing that would have proven them wrong.

TO has seen this same refusal to face reality among the IDiots and other 
creationists posters before them.  Not including the data about the H5 
gene mutations that would affect vaccine efficacy is a common 
creationist tactic seen on TO.

Ron Okimoto