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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: degrees Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:18:23 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <vf0t5r$3vv7t$1@dont-email.me> References: <mnl7hj17c7ukn62oije7d0oa2udmmkr76k@4ax.com> <6713e371$3$3068679$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:18:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="89048b1778d1f63268abb85022497358"; logging-data="4193533"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18uY1kXBoDJ9uA6n0FjvUJF" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:9wl7ZrjHFWmd0qZXpJZfzxQ+pzQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <6713e371$3$3068679$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Bytes: 2666 On 10/19/2024 9:50 AM, bitrex wrote: > It acts like there's some nice low-risk generic "baseline job" you can get with > just a high school degree in the US, there isn't. Waiting tables? Fast food counter-person? Here, they are: landscapers, swimming pool cleaners, etc. Your total "investment" is the means of transportation you use to get to the gigs. > You can do about one of three things (unless work for your Daddy is an option): > go into the trades, Tradesmen tend to have trouble as they age and their bodies can't keep up with the demands of their trade. So, you have to aspire (and work) to become a "Master" so you can have "Apprentices" in your later years *or* stash a lot of your earnings (after union dues) and hope to retire early. Nothing sadder than some carpenter, roofer, automechanic, etc. doubled over with back problems from advanced age. > try to start your own business and probably fail, or get a It takes a particular mindset and level of discipline to "have no boss". And, in order to remain viable, a keen eye on the trends in your particular market. > low-paid job in the service industry about which every right-winger will tell > you "just get a better job!" if you complain. All of the "low end" jobs effectively pay the same. A job may be "better" in some sense (working conditions, hours, job description) but rarely a significant enough boost in income to move you into a higher socioeconomic class. > Or some combination.