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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: constexpr keyword is unnecessary Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:45:46 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <vf2n0q$c52l$2@dont-email.me> References: <veb5fi$3ll7j$1@dont-email.me> <877ca5q84u.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vf0ijd$3u54q$1@dont-email.me> <vf0l98$3un4n$1@dont-email.me> <vf1216$p0c$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:45:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e075af0a451a2884c4ee8f8ff13dce24"; logging-data="398421"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Pzd1EdtHIglEFNNttPhwcFoy/Qg45O2A=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BDxXDQF8EDd//jxop315ZCQd/Hs= In-Reply-To: <vf1216$p0c$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2721 On 19/10/2024 21:41, Thiago Adams wrote: > Em 10/19/2024 1:03 PM, David Brown escreveu: >> On 19/10/2024 17:18, Thiago Adams wrote: >>> Em 10/18/2024 8:54 PM, Keith Thompson escreveu: >>>> Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> writes: >>>>> I think constexpr keyword is unnecessary. >>>> >>>> Sure, most language features are strictly unnecessary. >>>> >>>>> Anything you do with it could/should be done with const. >>>> >>>> No, absolutely not. >>>> >>> >>> If not, do you have a sample where, using "const" as "constexpr", >>> would create problems? >>> >>> The sample I know is VLA. >>> >>> const int c = 2; >>> int a[c]; //a is VLA because c is not a constant expression. >>> >>> >>> But this is not enough to convince me because it is better not to be >>> a VLA here. >>> >> >> What practical difference would it make? > > I don't see any practical difference. In theory, the generated code > could be different, but I'm arguing that this doesn't really matter and, > consequently, it's not a good reason to differentiate between const and > constexpr. > My point was that if there is no practical difference, then there is no reason to object to the VLA. You can't use this as a reason for arguing that it would have been better for "const" in C to gain the features that are now in C23 "constexpr", because this use of "const" was already allowed in C99. So the "const" vs "constexpr" discussion is an orthogonal issue - I was asking specifically about your comment regarding your apparent dislike of VLA's.