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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: AF Osc AGC alternatives to lamp/thermistor/FET Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 14:15:19 +0100 Organization: A noisesome patent Spinner Lines: 222 Message-ID: <vf2vp7$e446$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 15:15:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b9b3b461e50267641d1d191bc8194771"; logging-data="462982"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+qdSK6PSlX2KoQTNk1K437" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4+t3kb054kvBeX8ZtKIMow8OT1E= Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 6009 Yesterday in the thread "Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators" I posted a LT Spice wirelist showing amplitude levelling without fet, ntc thermistor or ptc filament instead using current steering long tail pair - kinda poor mans multiplier. Here is another alternative, using diode conductance bridge "variolosser". For the full 1960s vibe replace U2 U3 with bjt current sources. Version 4 SHEET 1 1316 888 WIRE 288 -208 -32 -208 WIRE 368 -208 288 -208 WIRE 464 -208 432 -208 WIRE 608 -208 544 -208 WIRE 672 -208 608 -208 WIRE 880 -208 736 -208 WIRE 960 -208 880 -208 WIRE 1056 -208 960 -208 WIRE 608 -176 608 -208 WIRE 880 -144 880 -208 WIRE 960 -128 960 -208 WIRE -32 -112 -32 -208 WIRE -304 -80 -304 -112 WIRE 608 -64 608 -112 WIRE 1056 -64 1056 -208 WIRE 880 0 880 -64 WIRE 960 0 960 -64 WIRE -32 16 -32 -32 WIRE -304 48 -304 0 WIRE 752 48 752 16 WIRE 1056 64 1056 16 WIRE 1056 64 784 64 WIRE 688 80 448 80 WIRE 720 80 688 80 WIRE 928 96 784 96 WIRE 288 128 288 -208 WIRE 448 128 448 80 WIRE 176 144 176 112 WIRE 928 144 928 96 WIRE 144 160 -128 160 WIRE 752 160 752 112 WIRE 288 176 288 128 WIRE 288 176 208 176 WIRE -32 192 -32 80 WIRE 32 192 -32 192 WIRE 144 192 32 192 WIRE -304 208 -304 144 WIRE 1056 208 1056 64 WIRE 288 224 288 176 WIRE 32 256 32 192 WIRE 176 256 176 208 WIRE 448 256 448 208 WIRE 448 256 384 256 WIRE 512 256 448 256 WIRE 928 256 928 224 WIRE 384 288 384 256 WIRE 512 288 512 256 WIRE 688 288 688 80 WIRE 1056 288 1056 272 WIRE 1056 288 688 288 WIRE -32 304 -32 192 WIRE -304 336 -304 288 WIRE 688 336 688 288 WIRE 288 384 288 304 WIRE 384 384 384 352 WIRE 384 384 288 384 WIRE 512 384 512 352 WIRE 560 384 512 384 WIRE 384 400 384 384 WIRE 512 400 512 384 WIRE -32 432 -32 384 WIRE 32 432 32 320 WIRE 688 448 688 416 WIRE 896 448 688 448 WIRE -128 496 -128 160 WIRE 288 496 288 384 WIRE 288 496 -128 496 WIRE 688 496 688 448 WIRE 384 512 384 464 WIRE 448 512 384 512 WIRE 512 512 512 464 WIRE 512 512 448 512 WIRE 288 544 288 496 WIRE 448 560 448 512 WIRE 800 640 800 608 WIRE 896 656 896 448 WIRE 896 656 832 656 WIRE 448 672 448 640 WIRE 688 672 688 576 WIRE 688 672 448 672 WIRE 768 672 688 672 WIRE 288 688 288 624 WIRE 896 688 832 688 WIRE 896 720 896 688 WIRE 800 752 800 704 FLAG -304 -112 P10 FLAG 176 112 P10 FLAG -304 144 N10 FLAG 176 256 N10 FLAG -304 48 0 FLAG -304 336 0 FLAG 288 128 OUT FLAG 288 688 0 FLAG 752 16 P10 FLAG 752 160 N10 FLAG 800 608 P10 FLAG 800 752 N10 FLAG 896 720 0 FLAG 608 -64 0 FLAG 880 0 0 FLAG 960 0 0 FLAG 928 256 0 FLAG -32 432 0 FLAG 32 432 0 FLAG 560 384 0 SYMBOL OpAmps\\UniversalOpamp2 176 176 R0 SYMATTR InstName U1 SYMBOL voltage -304 -96 R0 WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0 WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName V1 SYMATTR Value 10 SYMBOL voltage -304 192 R0 WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0 WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName V2 SYMATTR Value -10 SYMBOL res 272 208 R0 SYMATTR InstName R3 SYMATTR Value 3300 SYMBOL res 272 528 R0 SYMATTR InstName R4 SYMATTR Value 2200 SYMBOL diode 368 288 R0 SYMATTR InstName D1 SYMATTR Value 1N914 SYMBOL diode 368 400 R0 SYMATTR InstName D2 SYMATTR Value 1N914 SYMBOL diode 496 288 R0 SYMATTR InstName D3 SYMATTR Value 1N914 SYMBOL diode 496 400 R0 SYMATTR InstName D4 SYMATTR Value 1N914 SYMBOL res 432 112 R0 SYMATTR InstName R5 SYMATTR Value 100k SYMBOL res 432 544 R0 SYMATTR InstName R6 SYMATTR Value 100k SYMBOL OpAmps\\UniversalOpamp2 752 80 M0 SYMATTR InstName U2 SYMBOL OpAmps\\UniversalOpamp2 800 672 M0 SYMATTR InstName U3 SYMBOL res 704 432 R180 WINDOW 0 36 76 Left 2 WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R8 SYMATTR Value 10k SYMBOL res 704 592 R180 WINDOW 0 36 76 Left 2 WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R9 SYMATTR Value 10k SYMBOL cap 432 -224 R90 WINDOW 0 0 32 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 32 32 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName C3 SYMATTR Value 100n SYMBOL res 560 -224 R90 WINDOW 0 0 56 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 32 56 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName R7 SYMATTR Value 2200 SYMBOL res 896 -48 R180 WINDOW 0 36 76 Left 2 WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R10 SYMATTR Value 470k ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========