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From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com>
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Subject: Re: oscillator gain
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:44:26 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:01:15 -0700, john larkin wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:24:57 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:49:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:23 -0700) it happened john
>>> larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in
>>> <fpk7hj9v4k5bjohp1r1ub68f484hipcr2g@4ax.com>:
>>> 
>>>>On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john
>>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in
>>>>><bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>>><alien@comet.invalid>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john
>>>>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in
>>>>>>><tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00,
>>>>>>>>oscillations gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Economies are like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-
business-
>>in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and politicians don't understand control theory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it still dark in Cuba?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to
>>>>>>>rule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the
>>>>>>world. They just have nothing to trade.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
>>>>>
>>>>>ByeThen doing it again
>>>>>
>>>>>>Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in
>>>>>>the USSR.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.
>>>>>
>>>>>Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in
>>>>>Florida without power, housing, money and food.
>>>>>and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.
>>>>
>>>>I've been in several giant hurricanes and one tornado and one big
>>>>earthquake, and a rescue mission to Louisiana just after Katrina. All
>>>>that was orderly, organized, and the regions recovered quickly. Some
>>>>people evacuated the coastal cities and had to sleep in tents or cars,
>>>>or the houses of strangers, for a few days when all the motels filled
>>>>up.
>>>>
>>>>After Hurricane Katrina, people were driving to local gas stations,
>>>>tanking up and stuffing their cars with free MREs. They soon learned
>>>>to select the tastiest.
>>>>
>>>>When power failed in the biggish 1989 earthquake, we had neighborhood
>>>>ice cream parties before it all melted. As it turns out, power was off
>>>>for less than two days.
>>>>
>>>>Traffic lights were out for a couple of days. You can't imagine how
>>>>polite and helpful all the drivers were.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to disappoint, but the USA is not in decline. And we still
>>>>invent a lot of electronics.
>>> 
>>> Well, sure there is hope for your homeless, bit of taxpayer money wil
>>> house everyone:
>>>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Homelessness_in_the_United_States
>>>  walmart 16000 dollar house:
>>>   https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/walmart-tiny-home-buy-
>>online-33925177
>>> 
>>> And as to drugs, from:
>>>  https://americanaddictioncenters.org/addiction-statistics Quick Facts
>>>  on Drug Addiction According to the 2023 United States National Survey
>>>  on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH):
>>>  48.5 million (16.7%) Americans (aged 12 and older) battled a
>>>  substance use disorder in the past year.1 10.2% of Americans 12 and
>>>  older had an alcohol use disorder in the past year.1 About 27.2
>>>  million Americans 12 or older (9.7%) reported battling a drug use
>>>  disorder in the past year.1 That same year, 7.5 million (2.7%) of
>>>  Americans 12 and older struggled with both alcohol and drug use
>>>  disorders simultaneously.1 20.4 million American adults (7.9%)
>>>  suffered from both a mental health disorder and a substance use
>>>  disorder, or co-occurring disorders in the past year.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not in decline? You must be joking or on some?
>>> And as to financial debt, from::
>>>  https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-
e&q=US+debt+versus+time
>>>   Government Debt in the United States averaged 5780788.09 USD Million
>>>   from 1942 until 2024,
>>>   reaching an all time high of 35464674.00 USD Million in September of
>>>   2024 and a record low of 60000.00 USD Million in January of 1942.
>>>   source: U.S. Department of the Treasury.
>>> 
>>> Who owns US debt:
>>>  https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5-
>>countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
>>>   And you sanction China?
>>>   call it a security risk?
>>
>>Timely. Many countries have been quietly divesting themselves of dollar-
>>denominated securities owing to what happened to those held by Russia.
>>When you weaponise a currency and your foreign debt, as the US has
>>recently done, you better expect some blowback. Consequently, we have
>>the BRICS conference this coming week (ends on Thursday IIRC) and it is
>>rumoured they're on the point of announcing a new reserve currency to
>>compete with the dollar for the settlement of international trade. This
>>is also what is believed to be behind the current bull market in gold,
>>since that commodity is expected to form at least part of the backing
>>for the new currency. That could pose a threat to the dollar's monopoly,
>>since the greenback is underpinned by nothing beyond the faith people
>>have in it. Expect fireworks....
> 
> Any currency is ultimately underpinned by the productivity of its
> country and people. That's a simple conservation principle.

Any *fiat* currency is ultimately underpinned by the productivity of its
country and people. That's a simple conservation principle.

There, FIFY.

> No conference of bureaucrats ever does much but reduce productivity.

Especially if they've never had to live in the *real* world of hard-nosed 
business dealings.