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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: AF Osc AGC alternatives to lamp/thermistor/FET Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 14:54:47 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 279 Message-ID: <vf3jlp$18h1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <vf2vp7$e446$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:54:49 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="41505"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:j4dTZSvBpdNxcaHoVo8pDWR4YYc= sha256:HV7xomGC7YOl2L0FNtgRmTGHBxlZsz3moSrZvBKAfIE= sha1:QD61WoCn5malTGFZsehkK12lTwU= sha256:r0eXyDP2DVuEO2DGukRBg84ruuGmRZObrxZWlOjIWQQ= X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Bytes: 7801 "piglet" <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:vf2vp7$e446$1@dont-email.me... > Yesterday in the thread "Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators" I posted a LT Spice wirelist showing amplitude levelling without > fet, ntc thermistor or ptc filament instead using current steering long tail pair - kinda poor mans multiplier. > > Here is another alternative, using diode conductance bridge "variolosser". > Conversion to single rail allows V3 to be a standard zener. This circuit is probably more stable without manual adjustment than the FET version. There's crud either side of 1k Hz if you believe the FFT on current zoom extent. I wonder what reality would say. 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