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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:23:08 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vf3sbs$iugp$1@dont-email.me> References: <veu99d$3derp$1@dont-email.me> <veumb8$3gbt8$1@dont-email.me> <vf1ku6$3vhv$1@dont-email.me> <vf1lvv$3s2a$1@dont-email.me> <vf1m6n$444r$2@dont-email.me> <vf1mi6$3s2a$2@dont-email.me> <vf1nhv$444r$8@dont-email.me> <vf1nof$3s2a$3@dont-email.me> <vf1uo4$8qpm$2@dont-email.me> <vf2vsv$dvmh$1@dont-email.me> <vf3rvn$itru$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:23:09 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="aabc0fd3df6e34f8b2bca0279c86bedf"; logging-data="621081"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19liPhYb3HsO6ybhmWusrSHhrJv/nFb2Jk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:sewi09NtX0O6Nfx1hEwAlFOFAe4= In-Reply-To: <vf3rvn$itru$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2118 On 10/20/2024 5:16 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:17:21 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> On 10/19/2024 11:51 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:52:16 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>>> The context is one where data loss is not acceptable. >>> >>> Data loss is unavoidable. If the power goes out, all computations in >>> progress get lost. There’s no way around that. >> >> True, but that is not the issue. > > You said it was. Loss of completed/committed data is the problem. Work in progress is difficult to avoid loosing - and it is not really desirable to have half done work saved. >> Think transactions. > > Which is an entirely separate thing from data loss. No. Remember what the D in ACID stands for. Arne