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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: Microid's 2024 Empire of the Ants demo came out yesterday!
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 08:00:06 -0700
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On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>> say:
>>> On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:
> 
>>>> I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P
> 
>>> The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the
>>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale.  So they
>>> bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
>>> No joke.
> 
>> Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes
>> (the whole service thing.)
> 
>> But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
>> range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something
>> that can cut them in half with a swipe.   Um yeah, sure.
> 
>> And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is
>> nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.
> 
>> Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in
>> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.
> 
> 
> And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor,
> something the book is most famous for popularizing.
> 
> "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
> lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*
> 
> In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
> the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
> too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even
> if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?
> 
Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite 
of the book.  Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western 
democracy type "service".  The citizenship criteria in the book was 
_ANY_ kind of service.  Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees 
was service and could grant citizenship.  He strongly emphasized that 
non-citizens were not an underclass.

The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that 
he added deliberately.  He's admitted that in interviews.

-- 
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky 
dirty old man.