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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: oscillator gain Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:01:38 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <vf5qcj$100u3$1@dont-email.me> References: <tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com> <vf3cs6$g5ng$5@dont-email.me> <nnd$27363729$5990ca7c@127865b2309a8d79> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:01:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0f86087b06710df3bc5101656d81f6bb"; logging-data="1049539"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/LptCne2PiioIFVKOBJ7ovKN8umA+65S8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:FVlHL6t5kDCaOYj1t1r3Fu6XYMY= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241021-2, 21/10/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <nnd$27363729$5990ca7c@127865b2309a8d79> Bytes: 3193 On 21/10/2024 11:28 pm, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote: > In article <vf3cs6$g5ng$5@dont-email.me>, > Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote: >> >>> If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>> gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out. >>> >>> Economies are like that. >>> >>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >> britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/ >>> >>> and politicians don't understand control theory. >> >> Regulating an economy through monetary policy (interest rates - the usual >> method) is far more problematic than most folks would ever imagine. It's >> been likened to pulling a brick with an elastic band - and that's not a >> bad analogy. It's incredibly difficult to get the rate set right in order >> to produce long-term stability and the optimally desired 'goldilocks >> economy'. That's why there's normally a panel of economic advisers >> involved. It's too complex a decision for just one man. > > Regulating an economy with pouring government money into crucial > sectors and infrastructure, seems vastly more effective. > China does this, and remember Trump-level corruption can get you > a death penalty. China has been playing catch-up until recently, as Japan did earlier. When you've got foreign examples of what does work, it a lot easier to pour the investment into sectors that you know can use it, because other advanced industrial countries did it first and demonstrated that it could work. Once you've caught up, you got to make your own developments decisions, and that's a lot more difficult. The rule of thumb I heard was that about 30% of development projects developed something useful and profitable, and the remaining 70% didn't earn anything out of the effort put in,and many got cancelled before they'd got anywhere at all. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney