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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: oscillator gain
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:18:03 +1100
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On 22/10/2024 2:29 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:50:42 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:18:35 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in
>>>> <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
>>>>>> gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Economies are like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
>> in-
>>>>> britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/
>>>>>
>>>>> And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
>>>>> doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!
>>>>
>>>> Russia and China are doing just fine..
>>>
>>> Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin wants
>>> them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid population to
>>> rule over.
>>>
>>> Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
>>> the smartest people, aren't having babies.
>>
>> Same applies in just about all Western countries.
> 
> The thing about evolution and natural selection is that long-term they
> favor critters that breed.

And survive. Having kids is a judgement call - have too many and most of 
them die before they can reproduce. The human population is quite high 
at the moment, and the reproductive drive may be being dialled back in 
the west by some mechanism that got built into the genome quite a few 
generations ago.

>>>> unlike the you ash still stuck with boat anchors Pull up the anchors and
>>>> start sailing!
>>>
>>> The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing. It's
>>> still the technology center of the world. Farm output is fantastic and
>>> still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The most talented
>>> people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes or start
>>> industries.

They used to. The US isn't the magnet it was for clever people.

>>> It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the world
>>> will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of outdoor
>>> recreation.
>>
>> If you say so, John.
>>
>>> I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
>>> Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived where
>>> people didn't stare at him for looking different.
>>
>> I'm not surprised. You'd have to be uber *ultra-wacky* to stand out in SF!
> 
> Exactly. People come here and try to look strange and nobody much
> notices. Maybe wearing a red tux and a top hat would get a little
> attention. But that's a national trend; you could look weird in
> Hattiesburg Mississippi nowadays and not cause a stir. Races date and
> have adorable babies.

If they have babies at all.

>>> Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort of
>>> English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
>>> moving around, we won't need wars.
>>
>> You're sounding like some dreamy, Liberal idealist. Your vision might have
>> come true in time, but sadly we have an evil cohort who want conflict and
>> perpetual war just for the sake of it. The future ain't bright.
> 
> People travel and migrate all over the world now. They didn't do much
> of that in 1491. My company looks like a UN committee.
> 
> Of course it will take time to homogenize the gene pool. Half-life for
> that might be 300 years or so.

The gene pool won't get homogenised. Successful species spawn specialist 
sub-species who exploit progressively more specific environments.

The populations of the different specialised environments tend to mate 
with one another, and you get speciation by reproductive isolation.

> It would be interesting to see how mixing of the gene pool and
> universal English will affect tribal warfare. Hitler attacked
> countries to "protect" German-speaking minorities. Putin attacked
> countries to "protect" Russian speakers.

English isn't going to be universal. Specialised environments are going 
to force the evolution of specialised languages that are optimised for 
exploiting that particular environment.

Hitler and Putin weren't "protecting" anybody - they were just trotting 
out excuses for land-grabs.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney