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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:13:54 -0700 Organization: nil Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vf6u8i$15atn$10@dont-email.me> References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <vd1td8$3qtr8$1@dont-email.me> <vdmtmu$3s32s$1@dont-email.me> <vdn1t8$3sog6$1@dont-email.me> <vdn6l6$fip$1@panix2.panix.com> <d2fcdce9a5ab4287e89d38f4e7f48ba5@www.novabbs.com> Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:13:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="612e194c55e897eb3d9dc54c0b7f9609"; logging-data="1223607"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18N0fmrySScwIHwTMNmj0Ob" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:t4eLZXs/l7caQyqvuPaPev4MnjI= In-Reply-To: <d2fcdce9a5ab4287e89d38f4e7f48ba5@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2669 On 10/21/24 13:32, quadibloc wrote: > On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:42:46 +0000, Scott Dorsey wrote: > >> The problem is that if you want to turn CO2 into solid carbon that can >> be readily stored, it takes as much energy as you got from burning the >> carbon into CO2 in the first place. Assuming 100% efficiency, which you >> don't even come close to. > > That's true. But cars burn gasoline because it's a very efficient > portable > source of energy. Carbon capture plants don't have to be portable. So > they can use nuclear power from the grid. Only if the carbon capture > plants had to run on fossil fuels would this make things worse > instead of better. > > John Savard Why not power from less dangerous sources, Such as Solar Power or Wind or Tidal power plants. Of course you may be a nuclear power promoter careless of the storage of fuel and the radioactive contamination that may lead from such devices. Or maybe because you have not experience adverse effects from such you may have forgotten the possibility. Solar power with suitable batteries in isolated areas could handle the conversion to another form of carbon releasing oxygen hopefully in the process. Gasoline was very useful due to it high energy content but batteries are approaching the same energy density. bliss -- b l i s s dash s f 4 e v e r at d s l e x t r e m e dot c o m