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Path: ...!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: x86S Specification Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:16:11 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <vf6ucr$g6j$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <dqfQO.411015$WOde.295848@fx09.iad> <vf6j1l$144cr$1@dont-email.me> <3c6510cc947a1b59b62753de4cf98293@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:16:11 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="16595"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <dqfQO.411015$WOde.295848@fx09.iad> <vf6j1l$144cr$1@dont-email.me> <3c6510cc947a1b59b62753de4cf98293@www.novabbs.org> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) Bytes: 2032 Lines: 19 According to MitchAlsup1 <mitchalsup@aol.com>: >x86's long term survival depends on things out of AMD's and Intel's >hands. It depends on high volume access to devices people will buy >new every year or every other year. A PC is not such a thing, while >a cell phone seems to be. Intel's never going to catch up in the phone market but they're still significant in the server and cloud market. Think about the way that current Intel chips have a native 64 bit architecture but can still have a 32 bit user mode that can run existing 32 bit application binaries. So how about if the next generation is native x86S, but can also run existing 64 bit binaries, even if not as fast as native x86S. They get the usual cloud operating systems ported to x86S while leaving a path for people to migrate their existing applications gradually. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly