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Subject: Re: Microid's 2024 Empire of the Ants demo came out yesterday!
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:38:40 -0700
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On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>>>> say:
>>>>> On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P
>>>
>>>>> The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the
>>>>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale.  So they
>>>>> bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
>>>>> No joke.
>>>
>>>> Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes
>>>> (the whole service thing.)
>>>
>>>> But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
>>>> range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something
>>>> that can cut them in half with a swipe.   Um yeah, sure.
>>>
>>>> And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is
>>>> nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.
>>>
>>>> Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in
>>>> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.
>>>
>>>
>>> And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor,
>>> something the book is most famous for popularizing.
>>>
>>> "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
>>> lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*
>>>
>>> In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
>>> the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
>>> too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even
>>> if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?
>>>
>> Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite
>> of the book.  Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western
>> democracy type "service".  The citizenship criteria in the book was
>> _ANY_ kind of service.  Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees
>> was service and could grant citizenship.  He strongly emphasized that
>> non-citizens were not an underclass.
> 
>> The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that
>> he added deliberately.  He's admitted that in interviews.
> 
> Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?

There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated 
movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

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