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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:48:23 -0700
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On 10/21/2024 9:38 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 10/21/24 08:48, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:05:57 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 17:09:35 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am still wondering who is going to get the Chinese to cut their CO2
>>>> emissions now that they are 1/3rd of the world's CO2 emissions ?
>>>
>>> This is why I'm dubious about climate change targets.
>>>
>>> I'm a Canadian and every last one of us could commit suicide tomorrow
>>> and not help climate change as much as China or India or both reducing
>>> their emissions by 10-20%
>>>
>>> I'm NOT a "denier" but DO deny any international convention where
>>> China and India are NOT part of the solution can possibly be
>>> effective.
> 
>      Well they are building a lot of solar and wind capacity.
>      But like some other nations they have to continue to use
> Coal and other fossil fuels until their capacity is high enough
> to replace other none-emitting sources.
> 
>>
>> While your point seems valid and may be, in your case, honestly meant,
>> you should be aware that this can be seen as an attempt to maintain
>> the gap between "us" and "them".
>>
>> We enjoy the results of a century or so of industrialization, most of
>> it with no concern for externalized costs. (I actually read an article
>> that suggests that the reason certain French painter's paintings look
>> softer and vaguer as time goes on is precisely because they were
>> painting what they were seeing, and what they were seeing was softer
>> and vaguer because of growing air pollution.) Resting on this
>> foundation of wealth, we can afford to put the brakes on the pollution
>> express.
>>
>      Until all those fuel burners are replaced with electrical
> powered vehicles we have nothing to brag about in the USA.
> 
Only if you can generate "clean" electricity to power those EVs. 
Natural Gas powered generators are a significant part of US power 
production....

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