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Subject: Re: "The View" Gave Walz A Chance To Bail Kamala Out: Watch What
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:03:25 -0400
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On 2024-10-21 10:39 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:16:39 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> He blamed it on Trump, not the Chinese lab where it was created and from which
>> it escaped. Yeah, that makes sense.
> 
> Which is ridiculous - no sane person believes Trump actually created
> COVID. That said my home town was for a while hosting the largest
> COVID breakout in Canada (believed to have been primarily in 3 seniors
> care homes where they had 4 or 5 staff who worked all 3 - all 3 are
> about 2-3 miles from my home so you can imagine my reaction in spring
> 2020 what I found _that_ out though at least staff didn't abandon
> patients the way it happened in one Ontario facility and one Quebec
> facility - the military was sent in to clean up the mess and it was
> literally a mess since some of these poor people had had no care at
> all in nearly a week and several of them were incontinent - I remember
> hearing about the soldier who said that he had been in Afghanistan for
> 3 years but never seen anything like _that_)
> 
> I find it entirely credible (and have read an American book that
> reached the same conclusion in rather more detail than I'm doing here)
> that the Chinese had a lab leak which they covered up rather than
> coming clean with the result that things were much worse than they
> might have been.
> 
> I know my late wife was pooh-poohing the whole thing which from her
> view wasn't idiotic given I had been in Hong Kong during the first
> SARS outbreak (2002 if I recall correctly) though it was
> geographically confined to certain Hong Kong neighborhoods that I had
> gone nowhere near on my purchasing trip. And given my town ended up
> having no SARS outbreak she felt vindicated and assumed the same in
> 2020 with COVID.....
> 
> No - the worst that can be alleged of Trump is that he mishandled the
> US response and wasn't as fast as he could have been on distribution
> of PPE and the first vaccines.
> 
> That said, there was no medical reason for believing that being as
> close to each other as those Black Lives Matter protesters were was
> sane or sensible given conditions at the time. Which wasn't just in
> Minneapolis. No question those protesters were a vector at the time.

I learned after the crisis was over that SARS was very nearly an 
EXTREMELY serious situation, although I didn't fully realize it at the 
time. SARS came up in a discussion at my book club a year or two 
afterwards and two of the participants had in-depth knowledge. One was a 
fairly senior guy in the OPP and the other was a microbiologist at the 
local hospital and they both said it nearly turned into a much more 
serious outbreak than Covid given that SARS had a far higher mortality 
rate (and was more easily spread if I remember correctly). They were 
preparing for a major emergency and mass mortality....

-- 
Rhino