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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of Democracy Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:27:49 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 63 Message-ID: <vf7nm5$1d793$5@dont-email.me> References: <vde36e$268qv$21@dont-email.me> <slrnvgdhcc.2nfc6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <ve6pfp$2p1hd$8@dont-email.me> <ve8612$33lq0$3@dont-email.me> <ve9vga$3cbkr$4@dont-email.me> <mIdOO.204988$1m96.63811@fx15.iad> <vec4l3$3q4ms$5@dont-email.me> <criOO.380449$WOde.297877@fx09.iad> <20241014080601.00007478@gmail.com> <ln5gklF755tU4@mid.individual.net> <38fb5a91-5d00-be42-4bfe-2a05232a82c1@example.net> <ln7tooFijhpU2@mid.individual.net> <vemfq7$1qobu$5@dont-email.me> <venqec$24hhj$2@dont-email.me> <sFRPO.380393$FzW1.50024@fx14.iad> <mm96uk-us2.ln1@anthive.com> <veqne4$2n0ki$1@dont-email.me> <lnd6j5Fcf9jU3@mid.individual.net> <vetct1$388hc$9@dont-email.me> <1343403396.751142472.767579.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vf5bl1$th0d$1@dont-email.me> <cwvRO.88893$lm45.83715@fx05.iad> <vf60uf$th0d$6@dont-email.me> <vf6f8r$13ctc$4@dont-email.me> <lno5noF2de8U4@mid.individual.net> <vf6ua3$15nlq$4@dont-email.me> <lnov3qF62r3U2@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:27:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="eb00544ae59726cd33e3c33c234e4473"; logging-data="1482019"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+1XLAuexqrFG8BT+sF45lI2E0H4s98gvo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4Hncq7VSYZf3VkPmxoY6Eo4yTRk= In-Reply-To: <lnov3qF62r3U2@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 4184 On 22/10/2024 07:30, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:14:44 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On 21 Oct 2024 23:17:12 GMT, rbowman wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:58:04 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:53:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> Once the Left introduced morality into politics it left the door open >>>>> for every kind of hatred and bigotry. >>>> >>>> I thought it was the Right, not the Left, that wanted to turn abortion >>>> rights from a health issue into a religious issue. >>> >>> The left are just as religious in a secular sort of way. >> >> Is that supposed to be saying something good about religion, or >> something bad? > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion > > 1, if you leave aside the supernatural and 3 are fitting. Hoffer's 'The > True Believer' is dated but still valid. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer > > You might want to examine one of your beliefs, equality. Unless you > abstract it to the point of meaninglessness it is no different than a > belief in a diety, an afterlife, salvation, or any other fervently held > beliefs. > > Deity. >> Or indeed, males who cannot have babies at all, also supporting such a >> thing. You find it odd that human beings might want to support each >> other in a common fight? >> >> I never thought of compassion as a “left-wing” thing, but so be it ... > > > I've been rereading Nietzsche. You should try some. How do you equate > brutal, short lives without a coercive government with compassion as a > universal virtue? In the end Nietzsche was just another nutter,. A comedian poking fun which some people took seriously. Where morality is concerned, we are products of ancestors whose behaviour *for whatever reason* enabled us to be born and survive long enough to be here. Nietzsche observed that life's losers didn't reproduce. Hitler made it policy. -- “Progress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,” – Ludwig von Mises