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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: I have always been correct about emulating termination analyzers --- PROOF Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:02:01 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vf8b8p$1gkf5$3@dont-email.me> References: <ves6p1$2uoln$1@dont-email.me> <3232d8a0cc7b5d4bba46321bf682c94573bf1b7c@i2pn2.org> <vesemu$2v7sh$1@dont-email.me> <a9fb95eb0ed914d0d9775448c005111eb43f2c5b@i2pn2.org> <veslpf$34ogr$1@dont-email.me> <647fe917c6bc0cfc78083ccf927fe280acdf2f9d@i2pn2.org> <vetq7u$3b8r2$1@dont-email.me> <522ecce215e636ddb7c9a1f75bff1ba466604cc5@i2pn2.org> <veuvt9$3hnjq$1@dont-email.me> <87634d01e18903c744d109aaca3a20b9ce4278bb@i2pn2.org> <vev8gg$3me0u$1@dont-email.me> <eb38c4aff9c8bc250c49892461ac25bfccfe303f@i2pn2.org> <vf051u$3rr97$1@dont-email.me> <e3f28689429722f86224d0d736115e4d1895299b@i2pn2.org> <vf1hun$39e3$1@dont-email.me> <dedb2801cc230a4cf689802934c4b841ae1a29eb@i2pn2.org> <vf1stu$8h0v$1@dont-email.me> <592109c757262c48aaca517a829ea1867913316b@i2pn2.org> <vf37qt$fbb3$1@dont-email.me> <vf5430$sjvj$1@dont-email.me> <vf5mat$v6n5$4@dont-email.me> <vf7jbl$1cr7h$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0250fa4f333a237bb4a9bec06e6bd0e6"; logging-data="1593829"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+fUkVRly+Kyts5TlQTG8hU" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NRjBWc88Ij1CUlkBA9enH9F1bv4= In-Reply-To: <vf7jbl$1cr7h$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241022-2, 10/22/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3387 On 10/22/2024 2:13 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-10-21 13:52:28 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 10/21/2024 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-10-20 15:32:45 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> The actual barest essence for formal systems and computations >>>> is finite string transformation rules applied to finite strings. >>> >>> Before you can start from that you need a formal theory that >>> can be interpreted as a theory of finite strings. >> >> Not at all. The only theory needed are the operations >> that can be performed on finite strings: >> concatenation, substring, relational operator ... > > You may try with an informal foundation but you need to make sure > that it is sufficicently well defined and that is easier with a > formal theory. > >> The minimal complete theory that I can think of computes >> the sum of pairs of ASCII digit strings. > > That is easily extended to Peano arithmetic. > > As a bottom layer you need some sort of logic. There must be unambifuous > rules about syntax and inference. > I already wrote this in C a long time ago. It simply computes the sum the same way that a first grader would compute the sum. I have no idea how the first grade arithmetic algorithm could be extended to PA. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer