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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: VI* on VMS Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:06:55 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vf9b6f$1mdn6$1@dont-email.me> References: <87zfn4p2ul.fsf@lucy.meyer21c.net> <vep4bs$2cblv$1@dont-email.me> <vep554$26n$1@reader1.panix.com> <vep5j4$2cbm0$1@dont-email.me> <vep5m3$hal$1@reader1.panix.com> <67101c74$0$716$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <vepeji$274a1$1@dont-email.me> <ver0dk$2ohfg$1@dont-email.me> <ver1c8$2ns6d$2@dont-email.me> <671109ba$0$709$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <vetj5j$39s7n$1@dont-email.me> <vetle4$38vcj$3@dont-email.me> <671261f3$0$708$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <67129f26$0$708$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <67130094$0$712$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <vf5gju$uet0$1@dont-email.me> <vf699g$12frp$1@dont-email.me> <vf85bu$1fmtb$1@dont-email.me> <vf85jg$1ffc5$1@dont-email.me> <vf85rp$1f2pb$1@dont-email.me> <67179bd4$0$709$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <vf92sl$1l20u$3@dont-email.me> <lnqo36Fr1qtU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:06:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="47883bab3921f057e1286c4cd7c7c0ab"; logging-data="1783526"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19pEYQAo6QN4+GMLfFedb4HhDyftE+X8eA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ov8gb656dXLByhVQLDYEZ5euQko= In-Reply-To: <lnqo36Fr1qtU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3012 On 10/22/2024 6:42 PM, John H. Reinhardt wrote: > On 10/22/2024 3:45 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:34:28 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> VMS IDE is not an obvious choice to add a line to SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM. >> >> Is that an rc.local equivalent? >> >> You’d think by this time VMS would have acquired a more modular service >> definition architecture, à la systemd. > > It does, sort of. It's more modular anyway. Virtually nobody uses it. > The SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM method is what most people got started with in pre > VAX/VMS 5.0 and few have moved on. Check these out for info: > > OpenVMS STARTUP - Underappreciated Flexibility - http://www.rlgsc.com/ > publications/openvmsstartupunderappreciatedflexibility.html > The PDF - http://www.rlgsc.com/publications/ > openvmsstartupunderappreciatedflexibility.pdf > Adding a file to Startup - http://www.rlgsc.com/blog/openvms-consultant/ > adding-file-to-startup.html SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM works fine. People have 20-30-40 lines in it. After initial installation they add maybe a few lines per year and in rare cases remove a line. One does not need a huge advanced system to do that. Arne