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From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
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Subject: Re: Finally long term stable high density storage
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:28:55 -0000 (UTC)
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:29:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

> On 10/21/2024 11:00 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:51:49 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/20/2024 9:41 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:48:16 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 360 TB 1+ B years
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5D_optical_data_storage
>>>>
>>>> The tech has been around... well, Wiki says it was first demonstrated
>>>> in '96. "Finally" is a bit of a misnomer. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, though, it has several downsides. Biggest is that it is
>>>> extremely slow with writes (and pretty slow with reads too). And even
>>>> if it had "HDD-speed" read/writes... well, back-of-the-napkin math
>>>> indicates it would still take close to 3 DAYS to read all that data
>>>> (about half that if it were SSD speed). We'd need advancement in the
>>>> IO first to really make use of drives that big.
>>>>
>>>> It's also write-once, which limits its use to archival. So it's not
>>>> gonna replace HDDs or SDDs any time soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Now Spalls can fit all his games on one disk about the size of a
>>>>> quarter and not worry it's going to die of bit rot.
>>>>
>>>> I've over the years transferred pretty much all of my DOS-era games
>>>> to HDD (twice actually; first as images of the original medium, and
>>>> then a second time to a different HDD where the games are actually
>>>> installed).
>>>> The installed games takes significantly less than a single terabyte,
>>>> and that collection includes probably every DOS game you've ever
>>>> heard of (and a few more too ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Disk-space is so cheap and readily available already that -while I
>>>> wouldn't sneeze at a long-term archival medium- it's not really
>>>> necessary. It's surprisingly hard to fill up multi-terabyte sized
>>>> disks under ordinary usage ;-)
>>>>
>>> "Hold my beer."  ;)
>> 
>> $ df -h -t nfs4 Filesystem                    Size  Used Avail Use%
>> Mounted on 192.168.23.12:/volume1/ds      39T   26T   13T  68% /nfs/ds
>> 192.168.23.12:/volume1/music   39T   26T   13T  68% /nfs/music
>> 
>> Space is getting a little worrisome, but I have a new Synology filer
>> sitting in its box, as well as drives.  Just haven't gotten a round
>> tuit.
>> 
>> Most of /nfs/ds is backups of my workstations throughout the years.
>> My music collection is flac ripped from CD's, which I often lose track
>> of...
>> 
>> However, there is this:
>> 
>> _[/nfs/ds/scott/src/OS]_(scott@lm)🐧_
>> $ du -hs 853G	.
>> 
>> 850G of built Linux kernels.  (I'm a digital hoarder,
>> and having an NAS hasn't helped.)
>> 
> *gives vallor his beer back*  :D

:)

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