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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: It is not just Physics that Should be Hard in Hard SF Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:52:08 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <vfarhp$21mm4$1@dont-email.me> References: <robertaw-A7A8A6.10023321092024@news.individual.net> <20241011a@crcomp.net> <vebsqn$3p1aa$1@dont-email.me> <vf1a7d$239s$1@dont-email.me> <vf30cs$g8j$1@panix2.panix.com> <20241020a@crcomp.net> <vf3fsl$h0gu$1@dont-email.me> <robertaw-A322C1.21445520102024@news.individual.net> <20241021a@crcomp.net> <91uchjdh2mkvu95ios2q6rmuhmk6tkev50@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:52:09 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6bd7a89cac8957ab8919067d8fa17207"; logging-data="2153156"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18adSnxydXLE9G9xqvQQwaiuAAQ1yFDgF4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:aubrtiJzKW2upBDZWDWyIRSdmZU= In-Reply-To: <91uchjdh2mkvu95ios2q6rmuhmk6tkev50@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3886 On 10/21/2024 11:52 AM, Paul S Person wrote: > On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:09:37 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote: > >> Robert Woodward wrote: >>> William Hyde wrote: >>>> Don wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bobb[ie] Sellers, how do you imagine Poirot's being Belgian precludes his >>>>> (and Christie's own) Francophilia? Or perhaps, as you see it, their >>>>> Francophilia is also imaginary? (In the latter case we'll agree to >>>>> disagree.) >>>> >>>> >>>> Read the books, and you will understand. >>>> >>> >>> It has been a few decades since I have read any of the Hercule Poirot >>> stories, but I don't remember any comment that he was a Francophone. >>> That he almost certainly was one was obvious. >> >> It's fun for fiction fans to fuss budget over the nuances of Poirot's >> psychological proclivity for French. (Christie's own Francophilia's >> beyond doubt, at least for me.) >> Regardless, ratiocination's ready to resolve this riddle. >> POIROT'S EARLY CASES is a favorite, packed with Poirot parlance. The >> stories are splendidly sprinkled with Fench. He uses Mon Dieu! (My God!) >> in four of the stories: >> >> "The Affair at the Victory Ball" >> >> 'Aha!’ said Poirot. 'Aha! Mon Dieu! Japp, that gives one >> to think, does it not?' >> >> "The Double Clue" >> >> 'What a woman!’ cried Poirot enthusiastically as we >> descended the stairs. 'Mon Dieu, quelle femme!' >> >> "The King of Clubs" >> >> 'Mon Dieu, I cannot always be talking blood and thunder!’ >> >> "The Lost Mine" >> >> "He turned up that evening - Mon dieu, what a figure!" >> >> "Parbleu!" (Heavens above!) is used in three stories. These examples >> illustrate how Poirot reverts to French when surprised. Such behavior >> indicates French serves as his mother tongue. > > As one would expect of a (French-speaking) Belgian. > > You did know that Belgium is linguistically mixed, right? I lived in Belgium for 6 years in the 70s, in Waterloo. I could see the monument from my house. The north speaks Dutch, and the people are 'Flems' The south speaks French, and the people are 'Walloons'. There was more than a little friction when I was there. Brussels is officially bilingual, but in practice is a French island surrounded by Dutch speakers (the border is about 10 miles south of town). There's also a small area in the far east of the country which speaks German. pt