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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: It is not just Physics that Should be Hard in Hard SF Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:10:07 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 76 Message-ID: <vfb3ke$22v2c$1@dont-email.me> References: <robertaw-A7A8A6.10023321092024@news.individual.net> <20241011a@crcomp.net> <vebsqn$3p1aa$1@dont-email.me> <vf1a7d$239s$1@dont-email.me> <vf30cs$g8j$1@panix2.panix.com> <20241020a@crcomp.net> <vf3fsl$h0gu$1@dont-email.me> <robertaw-A322C1.21445520102024@news.individual.net> <20241021a@crcomp.net> <91uchjdh2mkvu95ios2q6rmuhmk6tkev50@4ax.com> <vfarhp$21mm4$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:10:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="34bf21e394dbbd53c93f1e1ff84e3bf4"; logging-data="2194508"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19c1rbXTzu29f/yL13YZJlp" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bKhwnE0eRSO3MpqOVLtGziwOlA0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vfarhp$21mm4$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4303 On 10/23/2024 5:52 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote: > On 10/21/2024 11:52 AM, Paul S Person wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:09:37 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote: >> >>> Robert Woodward wrote: >>>> William Hyde wrote: >>>>> Don wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bobb[ie] Sellers, how do you imagine Poirot's being Belgian >>>>>> precludes his >>>>>> (and Christie's own) Francophilia? Or perhaps, as you see it, their >>>>>> Francophilia is also imaginary? (In the latter case we'll agree to >>>>>> disagree.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read the books, and you will understand. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It has been a few decades since I have read any of the Hercule Poirot >>>> stories, but I don't remember any comment that he was a Francophone. >>>> That he almost certainly was one was obvious. >>> >>> It's fun for fiction fans to fuss budget over the nuances of Poirot's >>> psychological proclivity for French. (Christie's own Francophilia's >>> beyond doubt, at least for me.) >>> Regardless, ratiocination's ready to resolve this riddle. >>> POIROT'S EARLY CASES is a favorite, packed with Poirot parlance. The >>> stories are splendidly sprinkled with Fench. He uses Mon Dieu! (My God!) >>> in four of the stories: >>> >>> "The Affair at the Victory Ball" >>> >>> 'Aha!’ said Poirot. 'Aha! Mon Dieu! Japp, that gives one >>> to think, does it not?' >>> >>> "The Double Clue" >>> >>> 'What a woman!’ cried Poirot enthusiastically as we >>> descended the stairs. 'Mon Dieu, quelle femme!' >>> >>> "The King of Clubs" >>> >>> 'Mon Dieu, I cannot always be talking blood and thunder!’ >>> >>> "The Lost Mine" >>> >>> "He turned up that evening - Mon dieu, what a figure!" >>> >>> "Parbleu!" (Heavens above!) is used in three stories. These examples >>> illustrate how Poirot reverts to French when surprised. Such behavior >>> indicates French serves as his mother tongue. >> >> As one would expect of a (French-speaking) Belgian. >> >> You did know that Belgium is linguistically mixed, right? > > I lived in Belgium for 6 years in the 70s, in Waterloo. I > could see the monument from my house. > > The north speaks Dutch, and the people are 'Flems' > The south speaks French, and the people are 'Walloons'. > There was more than a little friction when I was there. > > Brussels is officially bilingual, but in practice is a > French island surrounded by Dutch speakers (the border > is about 10 miles south of town). > > There's also a small area in the far east of the country > which speaks German. > That's what happens when all your neighbors insist on conquering you so they can fight each other. :P -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.